Real Reason The Fiend LOST AT WWE Hell In A Cell! Fan Fury At Main Event! WrestleTalk News Oct. 2019

Real Reason The Fiend LOST AT WWE Hell In A Cell! Fan Fury At Main Event! WrestleTalk News Oct. 2019


the real reason the fiend lost at Helena cell in one of the worst results to a WWE pay-per-view in living memory I feel like we say this once a year at this point a show I’m Olly Davis this is Luke oh and welcome to this special reaction piece to Hell in a Cell from last night please press the subscribe button we’ve got loads more content going up stay covering the fallout of Hell in a Cell but let’s dive into that main event and what has reportedly gone down so it was a 20-minute match ready 15 20 minute match I thought it was quite good apart from the fact that it was completely doused in red lights I get the tone they’re going for but I don’t think it worked I think it was overly gimmicky just like the blue lights of Sin Cara back in the day yeah it could ask the question who asked for the lights hmm and it just it’s a bit too close to projections of cockroaches on the ring for me which was one of the times for many times the bray wyatt jump the shark back in the day they Bray Wyatt Bray Wyatt yes he’s a ver upon himself now and the match ended with Seth just heading stomp off the stump after stomp fiend getting up maybe was booked a little bit too strong there but yeah I didn’t really mind it I thought well this is pretty cool I just wish there wasn’t all this red light on it looks like a did a developing room for a photography studio but then Seth started to go deeper and deeper into this bad part of himself he covered the fiend with chairs with his head and he was stumping that then he started wailing on it with a little toolbox he’d used everything in his toolbox quite the visual metaphor apart from Triple H now the whole Triple H connection with Seth Rollins is is that a good thing is that a bad thing sometimes Seth says it like oh that’s the darkest part of me but then other times they hug in front of everybody and Seth went under the ring after hitting a pedigree earlier on and got the sledgehammer one of the most protected in like weapons in WWE he gets into the ring he’s about to swing it onto a pile of weapons with braised face underneath it all and the referee goes no no don’t do that completely missing the fact that sledgehammers have been used in Hell in a Cell matches before to quite brutal effects like when Triple H hit Vince McMahon on the back of the head with it kind of earlier in this match when Bray Wyatt used the giant metal mallet on Seth Rollins but this was apparently too far the referee said no don’t use it and Seth’s Wang it hit Bray on the head underneath all these weapons and the referee called off the match initially it looks like a disqualification but apparently what happened according to PW Insider the idea behind the Seth Rollins versus Bray Wyatt’s finish was that the referee officially stopped the match after rolling smashed Wyatt with a sledgehammer as he lay under a pile of weapons what it was certainly plausible why someone would think the match ended with Rollins disqualified we had told the official idea is that the bout was stopped and then WWE confirmed that news themselves with their website officially listing the main event finish as a stoppage clearly sensing that a line was about to be crossed the referee tried to stop Rollins from using the hammer but the beastslayer did it anyway bringing the tool straight down on the whole pile causing the ref to wave off the match while a crew of medics tended to Wyatt so what we have here isn’t a case of Bray Wyatt always been protected because he would have technically won the match in disqualification it was actually either Rollins winning or a draw because Bray could no longer continue so it’s even worse than we imagined folks WWE but the real reason the match ended this way was because WWE thought they were protecting Bray yeah so I came into the office today thinking it was a DQ someone said in on our discord this is why we should have had no contest as an option on wrestling which we can’t do because you can’t do that for every single match kind of every single possible outcome for a match it’s why would you keep it simple this person wins this person loses and I said 1x it was a D huge and x-pac we’ve got a video clip of him in a second saying yeah it was a DQ and everyone there going like yeah it’s a DQ and they’ve won online thing is a DQ and then I could like no no is ref stoppage the Seth essentially won for kicking too much ass and I like that’s that’s worse it’s actually way worse than then the the fiends lose it or the fiend winning via DQ this protects him in no way and they had a beat-down angle afterwards were prey got up after all those medics rushed in and sort of know sold all of that and beat Seth down but the damage had already been done the the crowd were heavily booing Seth throughout the match and here and by the end they were also booing Bray which wasn’t so much bullying Bray they were booing the company for putting on such a crappy finish and doing such bad booking actually earlier in the weekend a WWE Twitter poll asked people how do you think the Helena cell main event will finish well Bray win will Seth win or will it be a DQ they were already setting people up for disappointment and actually went with the fourth worst option and the reason this is so stupid and I thought it was a one-off last year when Brock Lesnar caused the DQ when he ran in an attack braun strowman and seth rollins is that this is Hell in a Cell this is meant to be like that the the ultimate end to every feud it’s the biggest most bloodiest most violent thing you can get it’s a no DQ match it’s a No Disqualification we’ve seen mankind fooled off the top of the cage and fall through the cage we’ve seen Rikishi been thrown off the cage Mick Foley as Cactus Jack used a flaming barbed wire baseball bats on on Triple H but apparently that’s fine even in recent times with Shane McMahon and Kevin Owens there is no real reason or precedent for stopping these matches or finishing them with a DQ but that’s now what WWE are doing and it really has ruined the whole stipulation if that’s now a possibility because it’s no longer the end to a big feud it’s a stepping stone which just makes no sense and that’s essentially how x-pac reacted because on the watch alone he was there with the other WWE sort of shills but x-pac speaks the truth I think I think Natalia’s face also says a million pick a million words yes so this is immediately after the the finish let’s watch the clip here that guy is the best reaction yeah interesting that’s a way of saying I don’t want to lose my job expat gets it yes so you can stop it there the the expec really struggled not to say fe yeah obviously he hasn’t kept up with the product because this was something that happened in last year at the end of last year’s paper that question was also asked last year we all said how do you have a no-contest inside Hell in a Cell so we’ll see if x-pac is invited back but this the crowd were furious I was furious at home yeah when as soon as Seth picked up the sledgehammer and the referee said no don’t do it I was like man we’re not getting a finish yeah I was like well this is it then and the crowd were already booing Seth being on top and Seth possibly winning and this just made it ten times it was a hundred times worse this crowd complete tent against this match yes so when the cage starts to be lifted the medics running the bells been rung so I want to really emphasize that the medics ran in to help the fiend the that I knew this one myself then the fiend medics ran in to help the fiend because Seth beat him up too much it’s yeah where do you go from there it’s such a gross misunderstanding of what the fiends appeal is and it seems like they were they didn’t want to take this title of Seth and they didn’t want to beat Bray we’ve seen this like Bray has an awful track record in Hell in a Cell matches cuz WWE just never want to just put him over and like oh yeah you know what you win this strong they put him strong up until now I don’t know what you had one jug WWE just let him win the title clean preferably in a the minutes it protects everyone and like the hottest thing in your company you can fully get behind like you sort of seem to be doing since SummerSlam yeah you only get to acquire my name you only get one shot to stop quoting Eminem to have got this right and they manage to get it wrong so I’ve seen a few people be like ah but it just builds to a rematch like well there’s what’s the interest in a rematch especially because it will probably be in Saudi Arabia and sets up so what’s the interest now unless of course it’s a double turn and this was a way to turn the fiend babyface and to turn Seth he’ll well we’ll see that the fans were absolutely furious in the arena they started chanting restart the match which I thought was a possibility at one point because yes so that’s inside so after the medics ran down to help defeat he got back up and effectively no sold everything that happened and so the crowd were like oh fiends okay we’ll reach start the match restart the match but no that was not to be the case yeah hit a sister Abigail on exposed concrete on the floor and then the the pay-per-view goes off air with the and the flashing lights Bray’s at the top of the ramp and the crowd of booing and it feels like the crowd a burn the fiend because they’ve been let down by him and by WWE it’s awful but here’s some reactions from the arena the fans of tweeted out yeah so heavy boos here is a shortly after it’s finished medic stuff still in the ring there yeah heavier boos unless unless they say moon no yeah it does sound a bit cow like there were chants of aew refund that’s already W chance [Applause] yeah and full refund and bull s words heavy chants of those and then but like Seth Rollins is meant to be your babyface I I get your point maybe it’s part of a double turn and Seth’s gonna turn heel now or WWE think just like Roman reigns beforehand we’ve got a babyface here he you know he’s gonna get through this fiend challenge and he’s the real money well the only reason I think it might have been an attempt at a double turn is because King on commentary kept saying Seth you’re going too far now you NT fun I’m like well King you were nearly murdered by the fiend so surely he should be on the side of Seth here yeah so if babyface King is saying that hey you should stop beating up the fiends now the man who tried to murder me once then maybe it is a double turn either that all King has forgotten that he was attacked by the faint but it’s also the story of the match that Seth was going to a deep and dark place and you have I know yeah that doesn’t make any sense yeah trying to preach in it but Jerry but afterwards Rollins is walking out and we’ve seen this over the last few months he stuff gets to him and you know the way he went off the willow spray on Twitter the way he’s been quite petty just just in general over the last I’d say yes since WrestleMania really blocked wrestle talk on Twitter he deleted his Twitter then create a new Twitter and still blocked us and so we’re now his way to do it so someone’s tweeted out another video after the match and Rollins is being helped out of the arena and Rollins is just staring a hole in this fan who you know some some websites have said this respectful fan he’s just booing him and he has a sign that says Seth Rollins isn’t cool and he does say quite clearly it’s bad booking Seth yeah like in I don’t think people can call him disrespectful for saying Seth Rollins I don’t think you’re being booked particularly well and you’re not cool you’re not being booked cool yeah I mean he definitely like that’s a lot of the coolness of Seth Rollins like that when he ran the gauntlet last year shortly before WrestleMania all that burnick down Monday night Rollins has been lost really let’s have a look at the the Rollins clip it’s no particularly think but can just see in there really staring that’s bad fucking sir chaperones is not cool [Applause] so he could be working and you know just playing up the the heel reaction his get him all you know just just looking at the track record of his recent behavior he’s annoyed that people are booing this incredibly crappy finish and him throughout the match when he’s meant to be a babyface yeah and everyone’s not behind him although that is one of my new favorite songs I’ve ever seen it’s not Seth Rollins sucks it’s not I hate Seth Rollins it’s not if Seth wins we right it’s Seth Rollins is not cool and this this is a in my opinion a huge tactical error by WWE because we can’t just look at WWE’s decisions now in terms of whether it’s a good storyline of Raw Smackdown or NXT you’ve got to compare it to a competitor with a e/w who did an incredible rating last week an art potentially a very viable competition and I know this is raw and smackdown on its main roster stuff are not in the Triple H expanding universe but I firmly believe decisions like this bad booking on paper views and and that horrible sentiment you create in fans is gonna trickle down to NXT I think you will get people game I’m not gonna watch an XT this week because it’s WWE and they did this with the fiend I’ll watch a W instead and there’s always the the report that Vince McMahon was not going to get involved in NXT unless a e W was beating it in the ratings well aw beat it in the ratings this week and what I suppose we’ll see you know as the week’s go on but if saying six weeks from now they’re still beating them in the ratings it’s Vince gonna get involved yeah it’s it the fiend was the hottest thing in the company for UW the hottest thing in wrestling yeah arguably so yeah hotter than Cain Velasquez hotter than Tyson Fury yeah as a promotion yeah sure you can definitely say that and all we had to do was put the title on him it was an open goal and you would have been the cool promotion for a bit yeah but they didn’t and they they face-planted spectacularly that I thought the worst way they could do this was have the Undertaker show up and cost him the match and then he set up a fiend Undertaker match which isn’t the worst thing in the world but really not what they should have done they should put the title on him but did they found an infinitely worse way that I would never have dreamt up yeah they over thought it massively really really bad and aw are gonna capitalize on this the young bucks tweeted shortly after the finish of that show five minutes in fact we’ll be back Wednesday for a new episode of dynamite on TNT yeah that was when all the crowd was chanting aew yeah and Chris Jericho someone tweeted him what do you think of a Hell in a Cell ending and a new in a DQ asking for a few million friends and Chris Jericho simply tweeted a mind explode a head exploding emoji yeah which I don’t think was a positive that’s mind-blowing man what a cool idea so yes they said everyone was in a lovely state where we all thought it was a DQ finish not knowing it’s actually worse yeah but and the DQ was bad enough as it was so before we get out of here let’s just have your sits at super chat saying we’ve got housemates Simon he’s back in town so first one Tim I rent Tim aren’t aren’t so the end of the show was the best aww commercial that I’ve ever seen yeah well that’s exactly what we were talking about just then KJ says in the words own heart enough is enough it’s time for a change god bless i eww yeah now going up the rankings into heavenly James book courses assess says WR giving us the best pro wrestling on the planet period not time with aw limps already say this company chisel I have not yet gone this company that’s gonna save that for the four of you because I could say it’s several times over present company Mitchell hi Fay Feli says hey guys so currently WWE is advertising the theme versus Rollins for the universal championship October 21st for the show they doing Cleveland and a house show ya how shows are separate continues they’ve been having how show main events for a while now yeah we’ve got Dane Berryman says he had chromecast issues ad sync issues WW Network and this easy for me to cancel my subscription I thought he was doing my ass yeah usually I don’t believe in ragequitting threats of the WWE Network burn oh maybe here well it’s some I’ve seen a few people on Twitter I’m not defending this but doing the old hey everyone always says they’re gonna lead but you’ll all be back on Monday I’m like but there are less people watching than in 2015 and it’s 2015 there was a lot of I’m not watching this anymore and ratings are at an all-time low so perhaps there are a lot of people who did just stop watching and I’m gonna stop watching and now you’ve got a competitor well they can easily go to yeah Antonio COO says in kayfabe the fiend is literally the strongest wrestler with all those kick outs and no sales they should have just given him the win we got beat because that referee I mean looking at it Lilith could have quite easily pinned him medics had to help him Ryan Kesler says at SummerSlam the fiends debut was a moment that reminded me why I love wrestling last night was a stark reminder of how disappointing it can be oh yeah yeah it’s always the jump cut where you say how can w w e screw this character up after SummerSlam jump cut they’ll never screw it up again says would writing Seth off due to injury and forcing him to relinquish the title tomorrow night’s salvage the store no no absolutely that actually might be worse yeah James McCool says Jon Moxley is cool cool Seth Rollins is not cool Brad Grove says why don’t I have the referee get hurt and have the fiend just destroy Seth and send in all the officials to also get destroyed finish with no one being able to call a decision of the match I still don’t like it I still like that’s better than what they did but it’s still rubbish compared to just giving Bray the win yeah this company shrimper jr. says what do we think was going to happen that they would create a star remember what company this is mmm aw made Jack Swagger estar we’ve got yeah we’ve got one more Niccolo juice office has just given us some BGN BGN mmm currency that is but thank you very much thank you thank you very much Zhu says I love Dobie Dobie I loved Abe aw but WWE screwed up yeah this this is a this is a misstep time for one more yes last one Peter Mullan says had a great time in the discord with the soif nation thanks making it feel like hanging out or watching wrestling with mates lovely time with the tired boys tie the sleepy boys from last night we will be back later today with a full Hell in a Cell review me and not gonna do that 3 hours and 5 yes and then we’re gonna go screen stalk alive Laurie and Simon are gonna be in the hot seats talking about the latest things in movie and video game news and then we’re all gonna play WWE 2k 19 maybe we’ll try and right some wrongs yeah we’re gonna rate this as we do the hell on the sell card but on 2k 19 yeah well announce some matches as the shows going on in the true spirit of it but for now please give us a subscribe press the thumbs up button leave a comment with what you thought of the main event finish and click the videos that have just appeared on the desk to catch up the latest awesome wrestle talk things and press this button right here which will make you a pledge hammer on patreon also go and watch our firefly funhouse unboxing yesterday some weird stuff went down I haven’t quite recovered know I’ve been on a Davis this has been Luke Owen over there was housemates Simon and that was an incredibly crappy finish

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