SHOCK AEW Defeat! AEW Dynamite Oct. 9, 2019 Review | WrestleTalk Live

SHOCK AEW Defeat! AEW Dynamite Oct. 9, 2019 Review | WrestleTalk Live


there’s been a shock IEW defeat I’m Olly Davis this is Luke Owen welcome to the second ever aew dynamite review edition of wrestle talk live hello Facebook hello twitch hello youtube we’re on all those platforms now so if you’re watching under those platforms please give us the corresponding subscription like follow I don’t even know what twitches reaction emoticon and press the like button and put all the comments down there we will be getting to your super chats as well after we’ve done our main discussion point and then again the rest of them at the end of the episode and thank you ever so much to be r52 that’s right this show it’s sponsored by beer click the video click the link in the video description below which is WWF 52 come forward slash wrestle talk to get your free case of craft beer in the UK which doesn’t just include eight beers a magazine and a little tasty morsel of snacks but also two more craft beers so you’re getting 10 that’s right that’s what ty Dillinger was telling you on this week’s episode of dynamite against jon moxley anyway this is a surreal stamp by dark arts i selected this specifically for you’d like a darker beer and we’ll be sampling that after our discussion points but first let’s talk about the opening match of this week’s aew dynamite which was the young bucks versus the private party young bucks their co executive vice presidents their founders of this wrestling promotion they’re the best tag team in the world it’s the first round of the tag team tournament frayed the number one seeds in this tournament to crown the inaugural tag team champions private party of rookies young bucks they’re the number 8 seed in this tournament as super veterans I know where this is going they’re gonna have a really good match all private party just miss out on the victory at the end young bucks go ahead getting over in defeat private party get it get over in defeat yes no instead we had an incredible series of near Falls towards the end and then at the young buck set up for the Meltzer driver but Cassidy pulled down and Nick Jackson off the apron and Quinn rolled up Matt Jackson for the win the shock upset win private party advance in the tournament absolutely insane and then a really nice touch they had throughout the match kind of NXT takeover style a few of the other tag teams in the tournament sitting in the crowd say had s see you out there I ran helico and Jack Evans in the tour they were scouting out future tag competition yeah so they’ve got a tag names now as well then I saw the hyper to the hybrid – with the number two rather than the ring attire is gross this luminous cream looks like an energy drink energy drink anyway it was it was genuinely genuinely shocking um do you think it was the right move yes I do because I think that the young boxer tied up elsewhere there in a few well they’re kind of feuding with the inner circle and Santana and Ortiz you can set up bucks versus then for the pay-per-view leap which frees up the rest of the tank teen division to fight over the tag tiles and not almost have this sort of like looming presence that is the bucks yeah okay and I you know I can’t make up my mind all I know is I enjoyed the Han out of it I was a great man got over with the live crowd it was a fantastic match in ring wise they went about was it a 20-minute times so it went under 20 minutes so probably about 15 it was really held my attention it was it was so refreshing because having lived through Ring of Honor from that 2010 to 2014 period were in my opinion they were putting on the best weekly wrestling North America compared to WWE and you like are just just one day I wish this got the mainstream stuff when you go to an independent wrestling show yeah and you saw like a progress or an icw like I just wish the the mains this this style of in-ring wrestling was tried out for the mainstream yes because this is what restless to me in 2019 as an adult male I am curious to see if this really does work in front of casual fans or if they’re like whoa that’s not sports entertainment this has gone far too long yeah so to see that this was it it was it was mind-blowing for me to experience yeah just this on TNT aw and while I loved last week’s episode although it had significant flaws that Cody Sami Guevara match I loved but that really was a throwback to eighties matches because it was a Cody match yeah but I loved that but this was the complete antithesis this was Super Kick high spots dimes outside there was a great spot when it was was it Cassidy no it was Mark Quinn he’d ov over one sight to take out one buck got in the ring to the other side did that four times then hit a 450 splash off the top rope his shooting star press is in saying he gets so much fun it’s okay a Montez forward frog splash you’re like how do you get up that hides an incredible vertical leap the I there was several times where I thought where the Bucks have got this including when they had I think it was Cassidy in the Scorpion Deathlock for quite some time and then Nick Jackson jumps over with a face buster to add insult to injury on that I thought he was gonna tap I thought he was gonna tap as well and then I thought oh man private part you’ve got this when they hit gin and juice I thought that’s it it’s over and they still and they care not I thought it was that after the shooting star press their will I bought into every single nearfall in this match it was absolutely brilliant but I also loved the storytelling that was in this match for me there wasn’t just high spots because the story they were telling in this match was that the young bucks are seed one private party a seed eight the young bucks went in there to have fun but then couldn’t put them away so started to get more vicious and started to get more violent and almost started to work a bit HeLa SHhhh not like cheating or anything like that but they were like we’re not playing to the crowd anymore we’re just gonna do these spots were just gonna slow me down and I’m gonna try and pin you because that he wanted to win yeah and so they got more and more frustrated that as the match went on and you might argue that’s what led to their undoing they got too cocky yeah I love how aw can do that WWE says it all the time heels and faces don’t exist anymore Baron Corbin is no face but here you have an sometimes it doesn’t work like I think Cody Brandee mjf that dynamic brand these are real and omega2 like some just make up your bloody mind you a tweener a babyface or a heel yeah moxie seems to have that down we’ll come on to that later but the young bucks here I never once thought oh you’re a heel or even all you’re a babyface or all you’re a tweener I’m just like you are this act I’m super into watching and you yeah I don’t really somehow every moral action you do feels consistent like all in all out sorry when they took off Pentagon’s mask yeah that’s a heel move but I wasn’t really booing young bucks in this match really early on and I think it’s Nick Jackson spits yeah at that point I was like they’re just having fun with this because I almost like they’re overlooking private party here because they’re the ones that effectively set this match up they were the ones who requested will face you in the first round because we want to have a match with you we want to give you the opportunity to put you up on TV cuz we’re gonna win and then just as the match went on we’re like we can’t pin these lads at least they keep getting up and that was really well illustrated and a great video package that ran before it just like the previous week with Cody and Sammy where they set up both teams they introduced private party I loved private parties entrance velvet rope yeah and they liked the area and they were introduced from a place where you need a special invitation and their weight is determined in vodka cranberries oh that’s a wonderful little gimmick and in a masterstroke of aw WWE for inside I’m sorry I’m comparing the two so much but this is only the second episode the WWE is like no only the wrestlers can get over no one else not the commentators backstage interviews referees all that heat must be directed towards the wrestler reaction I mean that’s quite stifling I always used to enjoy all that cell Hebner or all look we’re going backstage with Mike tonight jeremy Borash they’re getting Aubrey ed was over as their referee yeah but here it was the mullet security guy had less security guy he’s not said one word he won’t be probably never will if he does it will be a Silent Bob style damn or I don’t know no ticket yeah and he’s the guy that opens the VIP velvet-rope for private party to make their way down to the ring I’m so into him yeah I thought it was really really great but I just thought the match was brilliant it was really really cool and I thought there s eu and hybrid two in the crowd sold the the win as well then private part is celebrated within the crowd for this shock upset victory there was a great way to kick off the show and if this is the standard we’re gonna get for this tag title tournaments going forwards we’re in for a very fun few weeks of TV leading up to the finals at full gear well okay so this is this kind of circles back to what I was asking earlier because the more I think about it the more they’re both the right decision I think you can have the young bucks go over and it’s the right decision or you can have private party go over that’s the right decision with private party you’ve sort of made these new stars although I think you could have still made the new stars and have the Bucks win but with the Bucks they’re the best tag team in the world they’ll go on they’ll have great matches with other teams and then the best tag team in the world will be your tag team champions that makes more sense and while I love private party I that they are very green I’ve and I’m not someone who really picks up on all that wrestle wasn’t in the right position or that offense so it’s a bit bad because I usually get so wrapped up in character but even I saw a few private party moments yeah I was like oh that’s a you know that looked a bit weird or he did he just he he seemed to be thinking about doing the next spot as opposed to making this spot look real okay yeah now the reason this match was probably so good was because it was the young bucks so my concern would be private party going advancing and not having the Bucks in this tournament he’s gonna make it and not as good torna well they’re either gonna be facing Jurassic Express or the lucha brothers in the semi-finals and I would feel very confident in either one of those teams perhaps lucha Brothers more than jurassic express but I love Jurassic Express so much that I want them to like I really just I want them to win the whole thing lucha Sora’s is such a sexy bastard I just want him to win every title yeah if you haven’t seen a real-life picture of loser source by the way we saw yesterday he looks like Roman reigns and Seth Rollins as merge he is the handsome love child of Roman reigns Seth Rollins and he’s under a mask do you think like Triple H and Vince McMahon were trying to make the perfect wrestler and he’s that he’s the result of their experiments see well you feel like the mephesto from South Park you’re just trying to make the world’s perfect singer and in the end just made a tiny little monkey boy yeah so I thought this match was absolutely incredible I just it I’m what’s so exciting about it is that it felt pay-per-view level caliber but I think they can still have a better pay-per-view match agreed completely agree it was doing everything you need for TV but saving enough for pay-per-view yeah brilliant because I they told the story like you said um but I feel like if they had more to sink their teeth into there’s some really nice back selling as well frog cassadee cassadee yeah because he great spot Matt Jackson in this moment of fury almost a bit of frustration as leaked out gets Quinn and just runs was it was cool yeah yeah Quinn and I’m still learning everyone’s names and does this running powerbomb along the ramp and then POW bombs and down yeah he ran awesome so when the hot tag happened about three four minutes later Quinn jumps in clears house keeps up and they say what it was Cassidy because Cassie was one that was selling the back now he did the kip-up kip-up immediately sells the lower back yes eh I’d forgotten about that and you brought it back and now it just everything feels like it impacts more I thought this was an I thought it’s brilliant I understand the criticism that the young bucks probably should have won Meltzer have used to listen to his review so he’s concerned that the aw co executive vice presidents have grown up loving old-school wrestling but a very aware of the triple h’s and the hulk hogan’s and the Kevin Nash is they don’t want to be accused of just putting yourselves over because you’re the people are in charge exactly and there’s been a lot of Twitter like stuff around that a lot of people have tweeted oh yeah I bet they’re gonna win all the matches I’ve seen people said that to me about Arkady’s winning all of his matches and of course he is he’s the guy in charge I’m like he doesn’t come across that way yeah he’s winning because he’s the star and he’s also giving the other guy so much in defeat he drew with Darby Allen yeah I say and so I think what they’ve done is very noble can you make a Cody and the Bucks who are the promotions that therefore of the promotion’s top 5 stars 6 ready with Moxley and Jericho I would say they’re the top 6 and I I respect them for putting over the younger talent but I’m also a bit like I agree with Meltzer you kind of want to put yourselves over a bit as well because you’re the top guys yeah maybe get there’s a happy space in between that is a really interesting I mean I haven’t hadn’t considered that smooth that’s a very interesting viewpoints yeah yeah so let’s see what any more thoughts on that opening match no I just thought it was great I mean we’ll talk about some of the overall thoughts on the show but the crowd look great again the crowd were really really hot that the building looked great I my sort of my big takeaway from this show is the last week’s show was aew setting out their stall here is what dynamite is if you want to come and pick yourself up a drink here be our guest and maybe they ordered the wrong drinks like so there were a few bits that weren’t right exactly but someone asked for a lemonade and you gave them Pepsi Max chair and you’re like sorry I’ll still drink I still drink because it’s delicious but you know and but this week was just like okay we sort of set out that groundwork now let’s do characters and stories and this week was just littered with character and story and I loved it for it yeah yeah I did just to echo that I and I told this story on the podcast entry that we did beforehand I ran into my what our bedroom not my lady partners bedroom we share a bed like adults I run in there this morning way too early after I watched this episode I was like oh my god it was amazing it’s exactly what I wanted aids I mean to be everything that they did last week it’s like they listened to our review they fixed it and they like there were no logic holds everything I wouldn’t change one single thing and she said oh how what are the big things that happened then I was like nothing massive it was so solid it was such solid entertaining wrestling and she went okay so it’s like average it was above average she’s like you’re so excited for an above average show I said yes yes I am because this feels like the benchmark this feels like the mouse and they’re gonna use going forward one more thing I feel like the commentaries clicked as well ah commentary was on fire for this episode so good junior cares yeah I was really and I’m so happy to say that cuz I love junior grew up with junior he’s the voice of wrestling in my childhood and he’s been salty junior for the last four years and I’ve wanted to like him but I just can’t get on board with him I feel like stuff might have passed him by and that’s very sad to see your childhood heroes sort of age and not be as good as they once were but here I felt like he was it’s not it’s not peak a hundred percent what he can be but I feel like he’s on the right track there was one moment in particular that I wanted to call out to which it was during the the Women’s tag match and they did a Vader bomb and Excalibur corded the Vader bomb and Toni she wanted to goes we call him a fader bomb now like exact officious what the move is could there like yeah and and him and junior had a joke well he’s gonna where we were gonna call it a Leon white bomb I didn’t have quite the same ring to it all three of them just shed this lovely moments where Tony Schiavone he found out that how fade has got a move named after him so let’s get on to your suit suit super chats after we’ve sampled this delicious surreal stout to try this out man yeah of course you can get your free case of craft beer that’s ten beers a magazine about those beers and a little tasty packet of snacks you go to wrestle tour.com forward slash wrestle talk UK viewers only you just have to pay for postage and packaging so this is a beer of four malts and bags of whole hops to deliver a decadently deep and indulgent experience a luxuriously smooth mouthfeel followed by spicy hopped notes and full flavors of chocolate licorice BlackBerry’s and figs the finish is rich and satisfying with a lingering roasted bitterness this is delicious oh yeah I’m not getting that the licorice which is good because I don’t really like licorice it’s high on the multiset on what I like about it by the way silky mouthfeel is the name of my sex it’s very tasty go and get yours by clicking the link in the video description below really helps 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talking how many people are at the show sold out it looked great the sound was great parenting sided it wasn’t in Boston though I got an email about this day it was in Lowell Massachusetts down the road from Boston and near Washington Mike Dempsey I kind of want a party privately oh so I guess he’s excited about it yeah Christian Baltimore hearing the tag-team wrestling champ was amazing tag-team wrestling that’s a new one yeah haven’t heard that for a while and it’s that’s good because it’s like I wonder how many people went there who haven’t really seen a W and the sort of tag matches the Bucks have had prior to this they might have been like like you know when Pete Dunn and Tyler bate had that NXT takeover match and the whole crowd just started chanting UK yeah and it felt like that was their first real exposure to how cool UK wrestling was yes I got similar vibes from this with tag-team wrestling yeah Nate dropped surname Howard private party an eighth seed with only seven teams lol I was I I mean I’m speculating here I don’t know on this one I wonder if it’s the tag-team division overall link including hybrid to within that who have got championship wins elsewhere which has seeded them higher despite the fact they haven’t got the best win-loss record in aew I thought seeding would be for the tournament only so isn’t it because dark or together by dark wanted to get by but they beat the best friends who are also in the tournament yeah I don’t know that one as I said I’m projecting my own thoughts on that as opposed to being like well this is what they have said to make it probably doesn’t make sense that’s the sort of like that that’s so deep in the weeds that I don’t mind if that sir because I didn’t pick up on it but the other stuff last week where you know no DQ Dom Ioana correct result with the Bucs losing they don’t need to win belts at this stage they are clearly the best tag team they have the ability to make other teams look incredible which is a really interesting way of looking at it in quite a WWE one I would say like oh this team so good they don’t need the belts whereas the old school mentality and one I tend to agree with is they’re so good they’re the best tag team they should have the belts you’re the best team in the world you should be the champions yeah so I yeah I understand where you coming from yeah but I I disagree it is interesting because I’d I I can see both sides of the argument which is why I don’t hate the the decision either way really that’s that’s so great where you can book wrestling storylines where there are multiple good outcomes or as opposed to like you know like the fiend at the weekend there was only one good outcome and loads of bad ones yeah it’s better to have loads of differently equally exciting prospects that all make sense so the main show by the way speaking of the fiend it’s been getting a few comments about well stuff appearing in the videos I’m a bit concerned about some people in this office I’ve seen all of things around here I just don’t think we’re safe whatever it is will come to a head tomorrow on the wrestle talk news so and also screen stalker live is that blazing is that like can people go and hang out there now that’ll be a question for pizza he is the one who’s been setting all of this out but yes green circle live will be going up later today I believe we’re gonna be playing the John wick game I’m excited I’m very excited because it looks a lot like super home we very much enjoyed that when we did that in the previous episode a screen stalker and if you like this podcast there’s a screen stalker podcast as well right now with the exclusive intros and outros like this podcast does in the audio version and it’s now available on iTunes it’s on Spotify it’s on a cast where you can get your podcast from so go and subscribe and download that and get your emails into Laurie and Simon’s they can read them out on the interesting outros newer the Laurie and Simon team mm-hmm the housemates housemates they won’t let the shoot housemate they now need to get all their own gimmicks in for like get Medes and rusev haze and well that’s what I mean is we’ve got a they can’t just steal our gimmicks they’ve gotta go at their own ones now okay so the let’s get on with the rest of the show luckily we started with the opener so we can kind of go through chronologically after the young bucks match we had all the heels so last week I was a bit trepidatious about this because I did think for random lads just thrown together you give your friends cuz your heels sorry that I say four four but one sounds Helen Ortiz are one person yes and that’s Chris Jericho Jake hey Sammy Guevara Ingvar I’m a bit annoyed I mean a lot of myself but also us as a duo ourselves because Steven Larson started calling them ex-lax anyway so there with ex-lax and they come out so it’s a bit concerns that this sort was just that you know five Rando lads they’re all together because they’re their heels and it could be a bit midcard of evil but in this one promo they stopped feeling like midcard of evil and felt like an actual faction an actual fraction with a goal and a common purpose and a reason for them all being together I yeah I’m still not I’m still not 100% sold on it I still think it feels a bit mishmash but that’s not to say that this segment this promo from Chris Jericho wasn’t an absolute home run mm-hmm he is incredible and I’m watching this and I’m thinking this is why you are the champion this is why yeah you have to be the the top title holder in this company I’m probably for a long time because he feels so big time he’s got that mainstream recognition from his WWE career and you know I love hangman page but imagine if page 1 yeah your point I couldn’t imagine what it would have been if he had one although actually path or page was wicked on this show and the tag match later so Jericho takes credit like he’s babyfaces it up at the star but then he turns he says I’m the reason that the ratings were so good last week yeah and it started to get well that they started say Thank You Jericho there’s a charm from the crowd he tells him to shut up it was just a he was so good and he runs down each person sort of reintroducing them to everyone yeah cause I was they and why they’re on his list yes lovely reference but he’s like Sammy Guevara look at him he’s a Spanish God look how sexy he is and then said Santana Ortiz they’re back Halle brute and I like it they’re on my list and then he said Viva La Raza yeah on Eddie Guerrero’s 52nd birthday which was nice and then toast to Jake Hagar I said he’s the craziest MMA fighter and then this is the key to this promo and I could see you’re wrinkling he knows that the he’s the crazy well in this pro wrestling world yeah you do your bit first and I’ll say my bit well go through your because I think the next bit okay is quite crucial yes or the exact wording Jericho called Hagar the most feared MMA fighter in the world undefeated yeah and that’s a shoot yeah and it’s not a shoot I don’t know I don’t know if there’s some next-level mind every going on there or Jericho’s intentionally trying to annoy me because that’s such a stupid statement but he’s not he’s what to an embalmer sorry and I feel like that was a misjudged Bob at Tyson Fury came Velasquez and Brock Lesnar oh really oh I didn’t pick up on that I just thought he was just saying he is the undefeated MMA fighter he’s the you know food because Jim Ross called him the undefeated MMA fighter I figured they just gave him that title because it’s just a title to give him and we’re wrestling fans we don’t really look into this I think that’s thing kind of overall consensus and those that do or blog where like I mean yeah he’s undefeated but he has been fighting jabronis so it doesn’t really matter too much I’d I made a note of it but I’m sure he said boxers fighters and something else as well all the people okay yeah which just so happened to be all the people WWE leaned on for ratings let’s be honest Baron him with what he said later I could totally buy into that was a intended jibe yes so I mean it’s not a war yeah yeah it’s a it’s a jibe but like Ted only take the jabs that make you look good cuz in in that jab I was like I know ya Hager isn’t as good as all those three people so yes but now you can go on till we the people yes the crowd starts chanting we the people which was Jack Swagger’s old gimmick when he was in WWE and Jericho tells the crowd to shut up and he says we the people sucked it’s a stupid idea from Bad creative we the people is dead and it felt like he was thinking on his feet yeah I felt like an improvised line yeah and that’s incredible and the crowd like both booed and shared the same because it was and yeah like we the people got over and it wasn’t okay gimmick but really it was also a done gimmick and it was something we just held on to because we like Dutch Mantell we like we like Jack Swagger at the time their music right yeah their musics great the stuff with Cesaro like when I think of We the People I’m more think of Cesaro and swagger game over which is really what I thought that was a more shared thing yeah baby I thought Hagen was really really great that he is a very intimidating presence because he’s the tallest of the group he just stands there at the back not saying anything not blinking he just looks like he very terrifying presence and I thought the same thing when he came out later for the tank match sort of like as Jericho’s sort of bodyguard in seconds right Vince he’s tool honestly for me I still haven’t seen it it’s i-i-i-i at the moment he is just a tall guy to me mm-hmm I’m sorry if not negating how anyone else is feeling it’s just to me personally I don’t feel like there’s a threat there I feel like he’s a guy who’s sort of still awkwardly getting used to this again but you know it’s Jericho did a very good job at making this mishmash of a group feel like something coherent he said they’re called the inner circle yeah which I thought I mean I said this in my review later but maybe like way off base here it just so happens that TNT sent out through their Twitter account like a feedback form to a ews dynamite debut show and that was from TV in a circle like a group I guess it’s like a group think-tank or sort of like a so an independent group that you can hire for sort of feedback on shows yeah and it kind of works like so maybe it’s a reference to that it might not be it might just be very much a coincidence thing but it totally works for their group because the story here is that Jericho came into aew with no friends and he very quickly alienated himself from everyone by acting the way that Jericho does but ever so like week by week more people are seeing at Jericho’s way Santana on TV sort of approached him to be like we thank you for what you’ve done for this company and that’s why they were the sixth man last week Sammy appreciates what Jericho is doing he’s brought in Hagar to be his sort of like so it is Jericho didn’t have any friends in aew but now he does and that’s his inner circle which also mean I didn’t actually think I’ve literature’s come to me my head it’s a Vince thing because Vince always has his inner circle you have to try and get your way into the inner circle in order to be sort of like considers to have your opinion heard very much could be that yeah I there’s also a level of messiness going on here which is totally in kenny omegas ballpark oh and the Bucks with their self-referential star as well of booking storylines the actual inner circle of the people who own and run the company the opponents of the inner circle yeah so it’s interesting how they’ve managed to create this unified force that the actual unified force having to come together to take on so Kody Omega and the Bucks actually feel like quite distinct units when really they are the inner circle yeah so yeah I think it’s really really good I think what Jericho did here it was an excellent promo um he came off like an absolute star at the end of it he calls he brought of course cuz he’s a pro brought it back to the next opponent brought it back to buy this pay-per-view here’s why he calls Cody rubbish doesn’t like his family he calls Dusty Rhodes a jerk and that is like a god in this promotion his brothers are more on thinking to Dustin and he’ll beat the S word out of Cody ever-loving s uncensored super promo yeah and then Excalibur said I’ve just had a text message come through to say that they’ve got a t-shirt now on pro wrestling tees it was a really nice way of then ave w promoting hey go buy on your t-shirt but not have a cent to your babyface commentators say go by the heel group t-shirt it was more like the insider thing of being like I just had a text which they’ve already got a t-shirt do you know about this yeah it’s apparently P that Pro Wrestling teases store crash crashed because I guess they’ve never had he could have imagined I’m gonna predict after last week’s rating you’ve got 1.3 million people watching and they are all probably super into this if you tech I Pro Wrestling teaser has never had an audience of 1.3 million people being directed to that side at one time so you can obviously see what happened that yeah very very good for them great way to tie merch like he said without feeling overly pushing just this whole show I would not have changed a thing that’s not to say everything was this memorable all-time great moment absolutely that I had a problem with literally nothing yeah and that is such a pleasure of experience next we got Jimmy havoc versus Darby Allen a really nice bit of matchmaking to set up her a weld tidal shot for the next week well I found this to be really interesting because this match was announced on Tuesday I think was like Monday or Tuesday it was every Monday it was announced my and I was instantly very excited cuz I was like ah man that’s great havoc versus Allen yes please may I’ll have that and then the winner becomes the no more contender this is big thumbs up and instantly everyone was like that doesn’t make sense why those two what about PAC where’s this what about this person what about this person and Cody someone Cody responded to one of the more reasonable people to ask this question being like well Jimmy beat three of the top prospects in the cracker-barrel clash so we feel like he deserves this opportunity Allen went all the way with me at fighter first and went to a time limit draw I’m currently the number one contender and he’d be Shima on aew duck who’s a legend so that like those two together saw like within context yeah these two dudes are serviced shots to then get a shot at the aew championship and all those people that were sold about back then became a character motivation for him later in the show and he came out to be like why am I here for the chitchat I should be in that ring as the number one contender why am I here for the chitchat pet is verbatim Neville said yeah yes so he whoa what’s wrong with me I said I said tight Dillinger earlier and so I yeah I love it i think i think it’s great plus you can even make the argument yeah pack you’ve got a really solid win-loss record you’ve been in the main gear you’ve been in page those are two of their biggest guys that’s why you’re gonna get a pay-per-view match so you can still make it all work and it ties in beautifully yeah anyway this match Jimmy haven’t got a nice little promo backstage beforehand to set up his character because he hasn’t really been introduced to this TV audience yeah I would and I’ve seen Jimmy Abbott promos he’s an excellent promo ID this one didn’t really work for me unfortunately I felt like it came you know when like NXT people get called up and I’m not saying it’s anywhere near as bad as this I’m just giving up parallel example NXT people get called up and WWE main roster like this is your gimmick that’s all you’re allowed to say yeah and it felt like that with Jimmy have a campaign here mm-hmm so he was just talking about pain I feel pain I’m gonna make the world feel pain very well delivered but it’s just knowing what he can do I didn’t think this was the best version and then there’s tied in to the commentary afterwards because jr. said look I’ve spoken to both these guys they don’t want to just be known as the hardcore guys they want to show that they can also wrestle which is like a big Jimmy havoc thing this match was pretty much entirely built around nibbling fingers oh oh people were nibbling those fingers that was really nice because it was all like Jimmy havig was biting Allan’s fingers that he kept selling throughout the mattress I thought was nice but then it turned out biting the fingers gave Allen the idea later on it was Jimmy’s undoing because he went to do the the acid rain maker and Allen bit the fingers off of that while he was maintaining wrist control hit the flippin stunner in the coffin drop for the win was a decent match I really enjoyed it it was it was nice um love the coffin drop I also read I never cease it’s very very rare to see a suplex it’s often teased a suplex from inside the ring outside when I saw that it was these dude in I was like are they gonna do this just so everyone like knows if you ever see that and you know I’m watching it I’m getting excited I’m always makes me really excited it happens in Punk Cena yeah and money in the bank 2011 but yeah like that’s a horrible bump to take further Allen I also loved the so Jimmy had him in the sleeper hold at one point and Allen stood up and climbed the ropes and almost did the coffin drop off the middle rope to break up the holder to break up the sleeper hold really really nice in this he got the the hand on the room from the tiger driver really was trying to build up darby Allen yeah really put him over so if I’m being super critical I would say these guys it’s not like they’re exposed without all the hardcore stuff and the blood and guts but I think they would have benefited from a longer match slightly longer three four minutes five minutes should say five minutes because it was in the commercial break yeah an extra five minutes I think would have made both them more over yeah I could certainly agree with that it’s actually very interesting watching this via fights because when the the Americans go watch the fight thing how did you not so I wanted the fight feed it’s very interesting because the obviously you Americans are watching this on TNT you’re getting outbreaks we’re not getting outbreaks we’re getting continued action and we and the commentators still commentate the match and they say thank you for watching this on the fight TV the fight app you’re still getting this and they commentate as if nothing has happened and then Avenger would go we’re back now folks on TNT that’s really good so it is really good and it’s just watching the action through the commercial break it never felt like we’re in a commercial break i it was only until shivani or jim ross said we’re back folks that I was like oh right we were in the commercial break that whole time as opposed to if that happened in WWE after that we got Emmy mi sorry it’s an Emmy Sakura Emmy Sakura and being free sling I did this wrong in my review earlier I threw a retake of it vs Rio B women’s Chancellor as well i-it’s weird seen an Asian Freddie Mercury work he’ll I just assumed that would be total babyface but Sakura is the Sakura is dressed like Freddie Mercury she’s with B priestly be priestly has so much charisma she’s great yeah she’s awesome yeah she’s really really good I would say out of these four like Brit Baker did like she didn’t really feel like she had anything but after this match was done I thought god I love the Freddie Mercury stuff Rio is just this insanely sympathetic babyface I’m so into her yeah and it’s just like hop she goes yeah and I’m really surprised because you know that that sort of champion and she’s doing that’s be honest she’s one-dimensional she’s like smiles yeah that stuff yeah all 98 pounds of her I’m so into her winning every match and I love her and I think that’s a testament to the foresight of Kenya major because I don’t think going back to fighter fests and actually actually going back to double or nothing that Rijo will be the first aew women’s champion and she will be massively over with this crowd McKenney Omega is clearly to go it’s been going to bat for her because they worked here their training partners and he’s gone she is an absolute star we make her champion she’s gonna be so over yeah and it’s nice to have a babyface champion yeah but and be priestly I thought just she’s so good yeah like she the way she gets up in people’s faces feels uncomfortably realistic like she’s done that a lot in Maidstone beside a club yeah I mean it is also income to be realistic in that she gave Brit Baker a concussion at fighter fest and she gave her a black eye in this match as well they post a photo of this massive black gonna like it’s not real okay well yeah maybe maybe she’s wills girlfriend all right you know what might one of my favorite spots of this match was though and it may just be that I’ve just you know because Sakura is not someone that I’ve been exposed to all about much maybe she does this all the time but I love the spot that she did when Britt Baker’s in the corner and she runs on the outside of the ropes house and dives through and does a spear inside yeah in the corner I was like I didn’t even know how you managed to do this but you did it and it looked really great yeah Secours got so many little bit sight but I thought you were gonna say when Britt Baker was in the corner and she did the stomp stomp clap to do that we will rock you it was at that moment I thought because she was working heel I was like you’re eight is Freddie Mercury your eighties honky Tonk Man cuz honky Tonk Man was a heel Elvis in person to the 50s but his mate is gimmick and now we’ve got Sakura doing the same with Freddie from the Sakura I think I’m I’ve said the same thing wrong as well to be fair but I thought this would this was good fun this is actually better than the the tag match they had on dark aew dark so I thought it did really well put brick Baker over because they’ve clearly got massive plans for for her I really like her submission move she goes like this it’s kind of the rings of Santa’s also got the mandible claw in there as well because she’s a dentist so I thought that was a really nice touch she’s gonna be facing Rijo next week for the aw Women’s Championship hmm off the back of these two wins on darken on this show I reckon he will have some interference there they brawled after the max I would certainly not to interpret no you know I’m into everyone else I’m not really feeling Baker Joe and my other favorite moment this match was it was when they were making their entrance because Amy Sakura Sakura rather did her entrance with be priestly because she’s the big Freddie Mercury things BP she turned to her super cool entrance and she’s posing and Sakura just lifts up her microphone like you’re gonna join in singing right no way so next we got Loki my favorite I’ve seen people really down on this well I’m not I’m not even just talking about the guy who’s on your shirt I’m talking about from the very so that’s what I mean I’ve seen some people thought this video package was super stupid I think those people might be dealing with some just some general hate levels so the best friends Chuck Taylor and Trent Barreta it just cuts to chuck Chuckie running towards the camera in slow motion in a denim chat sleeveless jacket and denim trousers double double denim and then it cuts to the reverse Trent’s doing the exact same running slow-mo the other way it cuts to cut still aligned they’re in this park and they’ve just run together and hug and that’s like the big brain man and then it cuts the best friends at ringside and before it was a talent it wasn’t a tear it was someone else I just it was a tout but a female interviewer is about to ask them a question and you can hear Chucky T just say that’s great so funny the guys so naturally witty witty cuz it’s not like very intelligent of stuff you said but he’s time and he’s delivery always been really a big fan of Chucky T’s comedy but then yeah babies they say the Bucks have been eliminated you know top-seed how do you feel in your chances against their see you next week and Chucky says don’t ask us ask this guy and they part like the Red Sea and sat there in his denim jacket and his t-shirt of himself wearing a t-shirts is orange Cassady and he just slowly puts the thumbs up brilliant and it was a huge pot massive pot for Cassidy that camera work was brilliant like I did III don’t want to keep comparing it to WWE continued comments I hate me too but I can’t stop myself because I’ve been reviewing and watching WWE so intensely for five years now and now a promotion has come along that’s doing everything so much better it’s hard not to give me this give me just a couple more weeks so tell me about this camera why I don’t mean I would say that Kevin Dunn would have screwed this up ah I yeah it was the camera what so one of the big things about filmmaking is you want the aesthetics of your camera to match the characters or the tone or whatever this camera that camera angle was as cool as orange Cassady yeah the whole blocking and the move in the Parden ways it’s just a yeah I wouldn’t have changed anything it was it was beautiful and perfect and I’m so happy yeah really IEW is the show we wanted it to be and not one where they randomly don’t DEP I’ve read in Tully versus mark that’s not quite what happened no yeah no it was Shawn Spears versus Jon Moxley the Chairman Shawn Spears no contacts on him this week I guess you saved that for pay-per-views really for those real heated throw rivalries and then pack joints cut the the consciousness where they talk about what we mentioned earlier which is that I don’t know why those two got a shot the entire I’ve gone to a no record here in aw how many times I’ve been pinned in the last two years just the once that’s unparalleled in this day and age and it’s just his delivery of that and then once he’s made his point he just sits back and he just watches the ring and he just watches the action unfold it was brilliant work and he only piped up if the commentary team turned to him and said so what do you think about this and it would turn up and go like where’s my title shot you know why am I not getting these tile shots it was it was magnificent like this this is how you do a guest wrestler commentary yeah on a match Britt Baker scouting so I and pax there be an excellent on commentary along with an excellent commentary team now Tully Blanchard I I cannot get over how excellent is a former horseman like he’s very good at progress like he’s just been sitting there he’s just been sitting there and no one’s been doing anything with him an aw and Cody most likely have had the foresight or rather hindsight scare hey we should probably use this incredibly talented guy and just pairing him with Spears it just clicks it just works he doesn’t need some wins though he’s open to now is Shawn Spears and I think they might pick up a win in a tag match but like in singles competition he’s Owen too and also as well this is moxley’s aew in-ring debut this is his debut match because he didn’t get the match at all out due to the staph infection which means we didn’t know that justin roberts was going to transfer his John Cena entrance to Jon Moxley yeah we get the full works now it’s back baby and so is the black trunks I love that yeah I really like it and I just as soon as machs got in the ring straight up in Shawn’s face just like she started yeah really hot from the get-go I mean it was a it’s it’s difficult mock’s is really really charismatic it’s a lot of axe handles though ya know what I mean it’s simple stuff yeah it’s simple stuff but he’s got a ferocity about it and that’s really good if you’ve got a varied card when it’s a bit of something for everyone his style of wrestling so far although you had an excellent g1 and I love the stuff there but it’s the same as when he was in WWE I never really got into his matches okay very rarely I’m Benna remember aw higher standard I’m being hypercritical of this because I really enjoyed this match I loved Moxley but when it comes to the aim ring part I do he’s he’s in ring stuff is never as cool as everything else about him okay yeah yeah I mean I see what you’re saying yeah I know suddenly they think you’re wrong to have that opinion I mean I really enjoyed this match and it really worked for me I mean if I was to be hypercritical of this match it was Shawn’s beers working him over for 97 90 percent then he came back and won and that came off the back of Tully interference really like Tully pushed him into the ring steps will shout out to you where Junior though not being salty Junior just talking about how like previously salty cherish but like best damn it makes no sense here he was like I’d want to admonish the referee for doing that the referee missed that and that’s not good I want to have a word with people in the back about the referees aren’t doing their job properly he’s a stickler for the rules this Junior so I really appreciate that on the consciousness in him pointing out that shouldn’t happen the referee should be doing more I think was was really really nice also that Death Valley driver into the barricade the corner portion of the barricade yeah it was actual death I feel but on the junior commentary and calling out those referee decisions an AW in general the referees were that they went through great lengths to protect the referees from not seeing these obviously DQ moments and junior like played that up as well they have learned so much from last week yeah and if you know I thought okay this is the first week maybe in a month’s time they’re gonna fixed all these bits cuz you know it’s a new company they fixed everything we too like that let that rate of progression is very promising yes so really really exciting stuff I mean we still haven’t figured out live streaming on the screen stalker there’s an audio issue every date something new something different and we’re in the top ten wrestling YouTube channels it turns out was was there a list oh yeah there’s a they did a ranking of like the one hunt like top 100 YouTube wrestling channels and we are number seven we’re above up up down down in terms of views did this list what culture I can’t quite remember who it was I’ll send you across there’s been shared around by a lot of people because a lot of our friends have done very well for themselves in that list as well I think the Bella Twins are but WWE are above as what culture are above as Grimm’s and it’s just based on subscribers subscribers own views they are in terms of subscribers subscribers they’re not views that Creed so yeah that there this was very fun but what was what made this match really really great is the post match angle so monks picks up the win yeah and Kenny Omega just appears at the top of the ramp afterwards and he has about a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire and a mop a broom in barbed wire yeah and he just like mocks he gets out the ring he’s down the ramp from him and a maker just throws in the back yeah and it is just such a badass challenge and this is like this is a major this is how he likes to tell stories that sort of comic book like this felt like a comic book panel panel panel panel one page where they’re both looking at each other from across the divide and Moxley picks up the baseball bat they’re just about to go at it and then pack hits Omega in the back of the head with a chair yeah beautiful multiple feuds multiple stories different different motivations this big sore 3d fleshed out world you hold off on the Mocs Omega big hardcore brawl with with barbed wire you’ve got to presume and you add packing it all seamlessly just fantastic um just the cherry on top of this was that machs is now standing over a lifeless Omega with a baseball bat you’ve got to think okay I know MOX he’s gonna beat the crap out of Omega when he’s down but he thinks about it and then he just discards the bat and walks off yeah what a character moment and it’s very interesting as well because not to spoil next week’s aew dark but one of the matches on there is kenny omega versus joey janella in an unsanctioned match and you know that is Oh No ah Moxley has had imagine aw he had them sexually match with Joey janela Oh bollocks I say my review its debut technically it’s not you know what it was unsanctioned just remember that because I was little I was just thinking that and that’s a mirror of what Moxley did when he came in and he had his debut match it was the unsanctioned match against Joey janella and that kind of ties into what Omega was promo was about Moxley was like you wanted to be me so you went to Japan you did the g1 you wrecked your body doing that and now he is trying to do the Moxley thing I don’t think it’s a really really interesting sort of character pace for it bugger that’s annoying that my see if artists can if he’s already finished it the yeah it just already great apparently that match by the way done if you’ve heard it’s an absolute blinder I’ve heard it’s brutal like 25 minutes all around there’s only two matches in dark next week yeah I’m sending I’ll show you though is that it is yeah but there were four matches on this week’s dark so yeah that’s how that ends really really good stuff and then we’ve got our main event I’m like bloody hell this show is flown by for only five matches it’s hangman page and Dustin Rhodes the natural is justin roberts introducing him as well they call him the natural it’s not the natural Dustin Rhodes well they call her natural I hope he does versus Chris Jericho and Sami Guevara rep repping the inner circle they’d yeah they now they said that uh the page reminds him junior I think it was junior I think was Tony Schiavone he actually said the hangman page reminds me of Barry Windham he was once a partner of Dustin Rhodes so it’s a nice little callback as well which is why there’s like well that’s why this team you’re getting on so well it’s because he’s a mere you but he’s a mini Barry Windham yeah and it was really really good no I also as well appreciate exam outs time limits for the matches this one was time limit was until the end of the show yeah sounds nice and it’s nice it just adds that extra of realism to it’s like well we’ve got to go off the air folks so unfortunate matches a draw because that’s the time limits yeah I’m saying it’s good Jericho comes down with Jake Hager as the muscle and yeah this was just the Dustin was really really effective in his grizzled veteran role he got a hot tag at one point and we’re just moving it wasn’t the running man boom boom it was I’m gonna come over here move move who’s really steady a measured I’m like gonna be he’s incredible yeah he is on another level incredible like there’s a reason why they call him the natural and the commentary desperta were just like when he like stat wrestling that’s what people called it in the natural because he picked it up like straight away he was already one of the best and he’s only just gotten better with every passing year than he’s been doing this do you know you miss you put Tully down earlier Tully versus Moxley my spelling mistake for this week is I’ve Rin dusting dusting dusting roads just incredible just just as a testament for like sometimes when I watch wrestling and the crowds don’t react to spectacular moves I’m like well you know we’re all we’ve seen so much now as society like a headlock won’t shock us anymore it’s not gonna get that level of me Dustin did a second rope crossbody on Sammy and Jericho the crowd went and it’s like it’s not it’s not about reeducate in the audience it’s about getting them into characters and storylines and spots yeah like if you do just go oh let’s hit a triple moon Sol off the top rope to the outside before an ad break it’s just a spot I don’t know stuff the top of my head then there where that come from but here it’s like it’s part of her it’s part of a larger tapestry oh yeah I loved it simple simple moves can be over if you’re into the people doing them and on top of that when you do a running shooting star press like hangman Paige does it will also get the big action because it popped me so I’m like good lord that’s incredible that’s an attractive move like it’s so it looks great so Hager starts doing the fear a lot he’s like whacking dusting behind the referees back well stopping Dustin from cheating himself actually who’s gonna low blow Chris Jericho in the corner and then a Judas effect for the win yeah and then you can’t do this every week but my god this was the best of WCW nitro a couple of other things I want to shout out in that match I thought a hangman’s disc it lariat would Larry it was absolutely like beautiful havoc hit a discus punch yes earlier in the that was great oh so so good I really really enjoyed that that main event and just I couldn’t get over how good Dustin was so after that as if that wasn’t enough you know like really good wrestling here’s some cracking angles that further a ton of different feuds here for you right now so let’s try and get I’m just gonna do a play-by-play go for it stop me if I forget anything Judis effect for the win it’s now a three on one brawl Paige comes in but Hager takes him out and they sort of brawl off into the distance so previously it was I thought it was gonna be Hager and Dustin but maybe it’s gonna be you know a bit more exciting to me because the other one is WWE 2008 then it’s two-on-one on Dustin in the ring Cody chants the lights cut out the lights come back on there’s Cody in his full suit is behind Sammy takes out Sammy squares off against Jericho of course they’re gonna have the full gear match for the title but Ortiz and Santana run down and beat him up they’re all beating on Cody and then out comes mjf Cody’s best friend mjf loves Cody he’s his mentor he’s there with a chair he’s gonna save him but stops and Jericho and Ortiz and Santana hold Cody in position like go on hits Cody with the chair now’s the time and mjf like thinks about it or does he was it just a way to throw them all off and then he saves Cody that moment was absolute fire yeah you know I’ve written my notes here MGF rundowns for the save oh no oh no no he doesn’t I got totally bought into it I really bought into the turn if this was another company it would have been the turn because they just rushed through so tell me he’ll hit they turned the heel heel yeah and you say now you’ve been a bit melodramatic oh that’s hyperbole literally happen with Kevin Owens and the new day this year it was the week after and they burnt through so much booking that could have happened there this I’ve got a feel probably happened next week now I’ve got a feel 6 months 9 months down the line we’re not gonna see another bit of tension like this and it will happen when we least expect it but mjf will turn on Cody and when it happens it’s gonna be a nuclear program yeah in the same way actually was the most because Jericho’s got the best record in aid only the moment I mean it should – he’s the champion when he gets that first loss I really feel like it’s gonna mean something mmm yeah I really hope that mjf doesn’t turn on Cody in the full gear title match I think that’s way too so I think that’s too soon as well it may very well happen but I would say it’s too soon but we’re not done there and jf is just this mega pop for MJ if everyone’s going crazy for him and this I’m sorry I’m gonna cut you off there but I love this bit of character work here because this is a big babyface moment for mjf Ultra he’ll MJ because he’s chairing the MS he’s chairing Santana and Ortiz no sorry no why yes perhaps is Santana and Ortiz and he hits Jericho and leaves the mouth and it’s this big babyface moon he gets all fired up from the babyface moment and then goes right back to being cocky and you ask me like yep cause Jimmy I am better than you yeah you do know it and it runs turns around into a code Code Breaker from Jericho ah mjf yeah cockiness it was your undoing they’re amazing and then the Bucks run down and go for Ortiz and Santana that makes sense for them what happened because that’s that feud started all out and you know it looks like now the Bucks are out the tag team tournament that’s the feud they’re gonna pursue and and then it’s just like what a 10-man tag this has got to be – main event a big episode yeah Cody young bucks mjf and Dustin yep yeah against really really exciting and then Jericho’s walking up the ramp backing away from the babyface in the ring acting all cocky and I’m like okay here’s the end no way there’s probably the best part of the show outside of a double denim hope and that is Darby Allen the number one contender for next week’s tidal match after winning against Jimmy have occur there in the night comes down the ramp on a skateboard jumps up and hits Jericho and then he uses that skateboard as a weapon and then just to make sure that we all know this feud is super serious Jericho said that next week is gonna be Darby Alan’s funeral bitch and well he did so that’s again great promo work from Jericho cuz he’s walking off make sure to tune in next week and also the pay-per-view yeah that’s effectively what he said but in a pro wrestling way brilliant so many entwining feuds so much chaos so much fun Luke – five star show you go fault the foot wave my load I’m all-in I’m all-in this to me I enjoyed it so much and it’s so much more than last week I wouldn’t change a thing I know I always say you need three memorable spots to make it a five stuffing but sometimes you’re just got to go with your heart and I feel it frickin love this show and it did have those moments it had the skateboard it had mjf it had the double denim hug it’s five out of five flawless show so excited and I’ve fallen in love with a need I’d be all over again I thought it was an amazing show absolutely amazing two hours of television loved it loved it well let’s see what your super chats are same I don’t if it’s this good every week we can’t talk for an out 70 minutes about the show that’s what we’ve done so also we’ve got some suggestions for the mud alex mods name yeah i just because of ease northern irish heritage he is the baxter the backstop the backstop mod x so we’ve got a few more from the inner circle and jerry codeshare from ona DS and you chose a new ones yes so KJ says the inner circle feels like the midcard of evil 2.0 just a bunch of heels teaming up for no reason i mean i covered this earlier i think they actually do have a storyline reason to get together and it all spins out from Jericho’s debut in aw i do think it’s a bit mishmash but they seem to be making lemonade out of those mishmash e lemons they’ve also got one of each tag-team you got your high fly you’ve got your super heavyweight you’ve got your heavyweight in there job at JJ 496 Holly Davis his number one fan says Jericho swearing on TV was great and taking a shot at WWE creative was funny and I’m glad there was a shock because it makes it less predictable Tim and I didn’t like Jericho using terms like chutes it breaks my immersion and just reminds me that the rest of the show is predetermined that’s when he was talking about Jake Hagar shoot is what he means is just when like that it’s real talk not like that is real it’s it’s when Paul Heyman you stood on ECW he’d say that’s a shoot this network doesn’t like us and this network doesn’t want us on TV and that my friend that is a shoot I see what I’m saying I’d see what Tim’s saying there in terms like oh so everything else isn’t real well no because no cuz I think it can be interpreted both ways yeah I’d meant it more like it was the shoot interview as opposed to that’s a shoot score and this is a fake school yeah the stand man – two – Jericho pushed over a ref how will he put food on his table with the ensuing $100,000 fine but Jericho is less champion have you seen his house he’ll be fine yeah that’s pocket change Mike Dempsey please talk about Jericho kill him we the people dead here oh yeah oh no one was chanting it afterward oh absolutely because if they did chant it they’re technically chanting for WWE the way he framed it Johnny Five the actual robot from short sir carefully Jack uses Weaver people in intro for MMA fights interesting that’s fun tonight yeah based at the back as well with his gimmick table selling We the People t-shirts and eight-by-tens Zach icon Linda Linda says inner circle sounds like a Meet the Fockers reference I think I’m standing it’s more events reference and as you said sort like a meta commentary on AWS management and Wes Mishra I don’t think inner circle will help any of the members apart from Sammy Guevara as all the other members are already over I wouldn’t say that actually team Ortiz and Santana are very new to this audience oh yeah so and and Jake Hagar needs a lot of rebuilding Jericho is elevating all of them and they’re providing some muscle for Jericho so it’s a really beneficial partnership overall yeah an eight drops earning the chair page through in Hagar’s face Wow Wow face emoji he launched that yeah he did on the subject of Dharma Allen Tim aunt says idea for Darby he beats Jericho next week then decisively beats Cody in a fighter fest rematch at full gear would that build him up well or too strong too strong especially for this stage in his career like he’s got something but you want to pull the trigger properly in two three years time Mike Dempsey pack versus Darby Allen predictions once needs it’s gonna be brutal yeah I’m all in for that there’s a lot of like just lineups in aew we have tournaments on the podcast I just I just really like the roster the depths that they’ve got yes there’s a lot of times you just solve here are two names you like hockey I want to see them young bucks versus ex-lax yeah example dealer Steven arsons and Jose Quinn day it says Alan takes Jericho to a draw protects his character of never staying down and not put the title on him and then he can go undefeated without winning no I think you can lose to the Jericho the champion and not be buried yeah I would I would I would I would I wouldn’t like that I don’t think yeah Jon Moxley on the subject of him Mike Dempsey Moxa’s Austin with a bit of hair confirmed he has got that swagger about him mithril mock should be sting limited wrestling pure chaos hmm I wouldn’t mind that yeah cuz like I said the in-ring stuff is where I start to get a bit bored especially if he’s being worked over but if he’s just brawling crazily everywhere I’m really into him the add nap to the janella match was unsanctioned that’s why it wasn’t on Moxie’s win-loss record and that’s where i thought it was an in-ring debut yeah that’s what happened I saw the 0-0 and I thought I was an in-ring debut of course it is and it was unsanctioned which is why that’s very nice that’s an attention to detail and then over here just forgot a match happens you got your WWE brain job on the subject of the Wednesday night Wars so will had to go through this carefully we don’t do in the NXT spoilers we apologize actually for last week but we did accidentally accidentally we dropped some NXT spoilers crew just chatting about it but this is you know it’s new territory in terms of doing any NXT na w reviews on the same day it’s just surprising when CM Punk always return yeah yeah that was a shocker on the next thing I thought he was going to fox first Tim on says jr. took some shots at WWE saying things like are we allowed to say strap on this show and that’s how you make stars you relate to your audience what are the last ones a is a shot WAV the first one certainly is because there are sort of like no no words but then again NXT rose because they keep saying I know where the true alternative to sports entertainment now the corn themselves was it combats yeah what is it better taemin they’ve got like a certain phrase they’re using now so it’s not sports entertainment but it’s still not wrestling yeah combat something it’s actually remarkably worse than sports entertainment I like how jr. technically said strap on Steve Wynyard said Meltzer has said he thinks it will be a bloodbath in the ratings with aew versus NXT I’ve yeah it’s be very it’s still too early to make predictions I loved aw so much I can’t see why but you know from what Lori and Pete said that next II was really enjoyable to Walter versus Kushida Mike Dempsey says NXT quote looked better but aew had a superior storytelling I disagree I think aw looks a lot better just because of those those crowds in the big stage definite Griffin says aew the best WWE you boo tribalism he’s got a couple more here WWE will be running away from AE waw as the future wws the past WWE is really scared of a double use lots of emojis in there now it’s four separate messages agent X’s last week I wanted to flip back and forth between a W and NXT this week I felt like staying on a II W mmm yeah I last week o I was always thinking aw what’s happening on my next team probably because we were watching it live yes the first week yeah but this week I you know I was so absorbed in aw I was just there I wasn’t thinking oh I wonder what happened on our next day and it’s interesting to know I kind of to use this too much for metrics it’s such a small pool but I had no messages from people about NXT this week and a lot of messages from people about aew but absolutely no one saying sending it me anything about NXT and lastly on that subject her Gabi it says I am glad we’re getting good wrestling but I wonder now how will this push WWE as we can tell it is not hell if browsers can burn beyond writing also do you think that aew should start the talent hunting I think we’ve got loads of talent that’s it we said this on the podcast but I think they’ve actually got a great roster currently and I think WWE are a large organization they’re very slow to react to things that I think they’ve underestimated yeah what they’ve got on their hands here by not promoting it sure you can see but they put NXT up against it but did the main roster promote that did WWE think NXT is enough to take a slice out of a w’s audience I think that’s what’s happened so give it a month I think WWE will start to roll out changes on Raw and SmackDown too for like the 50th time in two years I will be surprised if NXT is in full sail in January yeah general dynamite Schatz we have the ad nap – oh my god PAC killed Kenny very good South Park reference and drew her and we got Kenny vs. janella in an unsanctioned match for a e/w Doug if it’s not on YouTube next week you guys need to find it no spoilers new Joey fan Wow Jerry likes to do his his hardcore wrestling that sounds like Angie was there life sounds like you yeah yeah writing Andrew grow Nick lucha soros was on American Big Brother 17 really what well I mean they do like to put sexy people on that show so that does make sense casting I’ve never seen a naked Mexican rights it was a fun shit that wasn’t just me making a confession or a plea it was a fun show when the 2 hours flew by yeah those two I was ready to fly yeah yeah Mike Dempsey spooky team wins it all to cancel WWE bad booking spooky team I don’t know what he’s talking about they’re not sure maybe that’s his version of the inner circle Chris Jericho should have called them the speakeasy October Halloween Havoc James McCool hearing Ross and Shivani a Dustin Rhodes match gave me happy feet was so nice love junior as well just saying like have you seen a better match this year in this country than Dustin versus Cody at double or nothing and they were like yeah no I haven’t that’s gonna be the top 10 matches of the year hands down don’t worry the back stop mod alex has come in to save the day spooky – thank you cheers thanks for that so when’s it all to cancel WWE by booking Z farms Wellington loving aw and the way they tell a story Shack me to death and who me Pauline absolutely loving aw at the moment r.i.p the fiend you poor sad soul will rip the fiend yeah rip the fiend shagged me to death call me Paul leave bad nap – Cody – dark order confirmed there’s a couple of times where I thought well cuz the lights went out before Shawn Spears his entrance I was like oh the dark order ahead yes minions out there I get ya it was a it was a good effective reveal it did feel a bit jarring cuz Cody doesn’t usually have back in I also think it’s fairly telling that we haven’t seen the dark order or the librarians on TV since the day being yeah I feel that it’s again one of the things they W been very open about this tony kahn in particular that we made some mistakes in those early shows and we’re now trying to like we’re assessing everything we did wrong and trying to work out what we can do to make it right it’s almost like we’re the people that matter in this the fans not some Saudi billionaire crazy Ziggy gamma are the tag rules lucha style what qualifies a DQ yeah I said this in the aw dark a review that I did yesterday a lot of that just like once a person gets thrown out the ring you’ll purchase your sort steps in the match continues I’m like that’s and I know they did enough to kind of like cover that on commentary but again that was taped off see after the first week of dynamite I think they did a better job this week of yeah having more sort of like consistent logical rules Benny satto tamos number one fan you’ve got too many nicknames ken de Leon I know that’s you free craft beer I concur great show so he’s on board and mate drop surname this is how you build young stars huge rubs for all the young guys mjf Sammy Darby especially loved the show I’m so excited for wrestling yeah that’s what I like to hear out of all the stuff aew have done this is the third like pay-per-views included this is the first one where I’m like this is exactly what I wanted yeah yeah this was the one for you because going back to all the paper views I make all that was a bit weird do you mean specific yeah I’ve just let me realize I have got the patreon shoutouts schedule this is just general chitterchat seth amphetamines hey Luke I like Deftones as well oh yeah the boys yeah that’s a shout outs Wow they are the latest episode of Russell talk after dark where I was talking about a specific detto song in a very awkward situation that I now can no longer hear without thinking of said awkward situation but um yeah the Deftones are great white pony is a stonkingly incredible from start to finish Mike Dempsey goes on a super Chet rampage here Tim aren’t is a wrestle talk smelly Marc emojis tell Tim and he’s the man I want to party with him Tim you aren’t you Tim you aren’t the best a weight year you are so entrance music vol 2 vs. henchman 21 Mars 21 are you okay Mike Dempsey Dave davon Griffin did y’all see my super chat yet guys we yes I believe we did do that one thanks super channel again Beth Becky was in Boston it was at Boston University okay was the person who emailed me said it was in Lowell and and then said that it was it wasn’t sold out either small afro games so Jaron Walker I asked why I wasn’t on that top 100 250 list and they had the nerve to tell me they weren’t including gamers when up up down down was in the top 10 that’s resting-place pja games aew was awesome but something has been bugging me for ages now what the heck was the Brock Lesnar rusev hey you remember someone said I’ve got a Russo Payne it involves Brock Lesnar we’ve never had a follow up to it yeah I just remembered yeah yeah we’ve never had to follow up on that one I’m afraid was that Blake just in Edel Heat Luke Moro called it Sports combat is it sports car I thought it was combat something either way it’s and still just call it wrestling or combat action yes combat action something like that wrestling Pavia let Andy out of his cage going to be a aw next week excited for the matches got two championship matches and a donation without the message Thank You Dylan at TV wow what a what a load of a wrestling chat that’s nearly 90 minutes and it was all positive chair as welling up in the super chants as well and of course we’ve got more go over to screen stalker right now load up the the sort of channel page because Laurie and Simon will have today’s episode of screen stalker live playing the John wick game will be walking in and out of shot as 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