WWE BOTCH Rusev Return! WWE Raw Sept. 16, 2019 Review | WrestleTalk’s WrestleRamble

WWE BOTCH Rusev Return! WWE Raw Sept. 16, 2019 Review | WrestleTalk’s WrestleRamble


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whopper on the suit suit suit super Jets top of the morning afternoon evening night hello hi hi Pete full of a nice day after he’s four days off he’s come back brimming with Chris with hungover yeah not hungover I’m just tired tired friend get much sleep yeah they know what that’s like I’m like she’s reading we did we didn’t livestream champions and finish work at 6:00 a.m. do we I was just reading through the the quite excellent restaurant torque magazine and this after you I’m gonna read what Ollie Davis thought of New Japan royal quest I love trollquest economist uzuki was the best match of the night but itchy versus cancer was also great yes spite the obvious concussions suffered by the latter and some on a high-quality opinions you can get in this magazine there’s a picture of me that I do not know where I came from assume it’s media con because I’m wearing a Sonic the Hedgehog t-shirt oh yeah it is yeah yeah that those are the ones I sent over no it isn’t it’s the it’s the photo shoot mean you did no it’s not I was wearing a South Party show okay well let’s talk about rusev and yes he’ll this has happened of course we’ll get to your super chats in the after this first discussion topic and then at the end of the show so last night’s Raw was a mixed bag a good half of it was wasn’t just bollocks it was significantly damaging stuff to a lot of wrestlers and a lot of storylines the other half was absolutely fantastic and I loved it the reports are Paul Heyman was can in complete control of this show not only no Vince McMahon but no Triple H either yeah and we always say I think it’s quite popular Heyman feels like this Savior figure he can do no wrong an image which Heyman has created himself he’s been largely responsible for that and I think this shows that Heyman isn’t all good in fact he’s probably 40% quite bad and still relying on the old shock tactics of the worst parts of the Attitude Era yes I would certainly agree with that we actually at a very got a really good email coming in on this Saturday’s restaurant with one of our patreon left in the mailbag community which was about their thoughts on why there was a wrestling boom in the late 90s and why’d the Attitude Era was so successful and actually has nothing to do with the wrestling side of it is actually just more because everyone was into shock stuffer that at that time it was just it was beavis and butt-head it was Jerry Springer Airy spring it was just a car crash TV was the thing and WWF and WCW were doing their version of car crash TV and that’s what we had a wrestling boom now when it’s actually just wrestling and people enjoy watching wrestling for wrestling we might not ever get that other boom but there is also you know that that that group of audience or that desire hasn’t gone away you’ve got love island and the real world and big rather all those things so I’m sure some of those related references anyway so here’s the example that we’re kicking off with of the very definitely Paul Heyman led yes and also very definitely crap pieces of book him so sort of in the second hour of the show the street profits are backstage they’re hosting the gender-reveal party for Mike American Alice’s baby this segment alone got more plugging than NXT launching live on the USA Network this Wednesday well you’ve got to spend time on the important things why don’t you set up an angle to feed into Wednesday because it’s the triple h expanded universe and they’re my toys over here it’s just boom they have dropped a ball on the promotion of that show I can’t believe it considering how oh they’re egging of promotion AR for other things anyway on a tangent the street profits are hosting this party skits there’s a bunch of nobodies backstage with ricochets all the 24/7 geeks yeah and ricochet and then Maria says it’s gonna be a baby boy yeah it was a very much say the actual gender reveal was the least interesting thing about this because she just came in a when it’s a boy anymore when hey as opposed to be like here’s some building suspense to it yeah and then she said to Mike but you’re not the father ricochet is yeah so this is when she did because she this is a story that’s been picked back up after two or so months of not being talked about at all completely dropped completely dropped but now we’re now like oh yeah we’re gonna pick up that Mike and Maria storyline again that everyone was really craving which was a definite Paul Heyman thing yes like that’s that’s that’s reported yeah all of that stuff and the the shock stuff which didn’t go down well when it first started was Paul Heyman’s stuff yes so then I decided to pick this back up again but during the original run of this Maria did say that Mike Cano’s was not man enough to impregnate her so a lot of people said oh he’s not the father I took that as she was just insulting him and he is still the father but no the storyline is that everyone was right he’s not the father and she has now deaf confirmed that he’s not the father because she said it’s ricochet and ricochets like it’s not me I’m not the father I wouldn’t do that well I mean I would but I’m not going to pork a can xaro’s what you know okay like what yeah and then they go out and Mike challenges him to a match and that this was a very very bizarre lo Dawkins thankfully that wasn’t him yeah that was quite funny I’ve seen a lot of people be sniffy of the human that came in this segment because the minded well the line afterwards did make me laugh which was they could have a Maria on a pole match and Montez Ward said well that’s how we got here in the first place yeah why is that we can have a baby on the pole match and it no Maria and then into that yeah and that was like I’ve seen a few reviews go those jokes have no place in 2019 and like Maria’s character is that pretty much and they’re making a joke about that just like you could do a joke the opposite way on a guy yeah that’s that like to say that’s and it’s also a very funny joke made me laugh yeah and he got and I didn’t see it coming and you know if that was given to someone who’s not very good at comedy to deliver maybe I’d feel differently but the fact of the matter is street profits excellent at delivering this sort of stuff completely fits with Dawkins his character yeah a guy is a horny man oh he is so horny yeah such a horny horny horny man so then we got the match between Mike Kanellis and ricochet Michael Cole throughout this was praising ricochet for sleeping with Maria yeah it’s like well done which would be great if it was Joey Styles but Matt isn’t Michael Cole’s I think oh I don’t want to hear Michael Cole ever remind me that he’s got a penis yeah for this but this was just a big joke to the commentators who were just laughing uproariously amongst themselves not really paying attention to the match they were just making jokes amongst themselves and ricochet one with the recoil yeah and ricochet was actually very good here I thought he told the physicality of I don’t want to beat you man I know this is Maria just manipulating you I just yeah and that’s a really difficult babyface thing to pull off I thought he managed it very well yeah I thought he was actually very good in that as well and then we went to a different segment with great wine we came back and Mike’s in the ring the SIS has been given so much time so much airtime for this episode Mike’s still in the ring Maria says I told you ricochet was the father because I thought that would motivate you again insinuating that he is still the father but then said but here’s the real father and who was that real father it was rusev so after not appearing since April where he was in the 51 man battle royal for super showdown so not even a featured thing and many reports of him and Lana being unhappy that their contracts are up soon they’ve been very vocal about how they’ve been unhappy basically every podcast interview I’ve ever done is like this company’s awful and I do not like it here yeah Brad Shepherd saying they were insane rusev is like I’m not resigned mate Brad have a good pressing tweet yeah and the and then they choose now to have him returned and it’s just such an odd choice and it fell completely flat because rusev comes out first of all he looks great he’s got a mustache he’s stuck with that look which is just awesome anyway but just physically the guy looks like he’s lost twenty thirty pounds looks amazing not that he was ever out of shape but he has leaned up considerably he’s more I don’t it may be body shape wise for his character I prefer him a bit bulkier I like that like you can’t fault the guy’s commitment to training here but he comes out and usually if there’s any kind of WWE return people pop big and then they like I don’t mind now and rusev is one of those guys who hasn’t been around for this amount of time same amount of time and Sasha banks roughly same about the time is Luke Harper and Asia is a beloved character really with the Bruce FA stuff so you’d expect the crowd to react yeah there was a couple of tons of rusev day during the ensuing match that they had but he comes out to pretty much crickets because as I think they were asking the same things I why is he out there with Maria does that mean he had sex with Maria and where’s Lana they did bring up Lana on commentary they said conspicuous by her absence where’s Lana well that’s not good enough no well no I agree and also a Maria and Rousseff partnership does not work because then so rusev goes down the ring and beats up Mike Canaris around ringside and Maria’s just and they’re like at the top of the round going like yes you you do that father of my child and then he yet them they’ve turned into a match and then match go kick camel clutch and rusev won but my notes here it’s like is this real this is real life because this this is just fantasy yeah I mean courting a landslide is what bloody rusev is and his career trajectory this was a bad bad day for rusev this is a bad return and it slots him it completely the wrong place on the card this is a man who should be in your top echelon of wrestlers and they just consistently slot him in that lower mid card place and just have no s to give about him yeah it’s it’s really damaging now this is one of the really significant problems with this episode of Raw coz okay you have a bad match you’ve got your segment that’s just bad when you cut the legs out from underneath someone who has so much potential and will damage their career that’s unforgivable in my eyes that’s the stuff I hate more than anything else we’ll talk about it as well with Cedric Alexander so it’s just I do not know what they were thinking I just did what I think is gonna happen next week rusev is just gonna be a monster that destroys people he’s not gonna have any affiliation with the Canales I really yeah I think the only thing they’re gonna be a manager then why was Maria up on the roof English it’s just a way to give Roose ever return so is he the father no no I got I don’t think that’s anything to do with it and they just thought huh well put roofs have returned in here which like he said slots him in at that midcard level under mint card really undercard stuff yeah if you’re with the canal si sure Mike had a fun line of well if you’re the father actually I’m ok with it because he was scared of him but overall this segment was really really crap and ultimately damaging to Rousseff and into which we go through the Corey graves line yes so Corey called Mike a beta Kirk and that yeah all the commentary team are making fun of Mike effectively same versions of that so it’s just like that is that is tone-deaf writing whether he set that on his own which is bad but it’s worse if it was written for him and fed to him by someone else and then he said it well I’m I to be honest I can’t sit here and say I enjoyed the the Maria on a pole joke and then condemned that line because that’d be hypocritical I think that they’re the same thing you look at this segment and how the characters are mike is a cuckold hmm you know he’s said there oh yeah if it was you I’m glad you had to say I’m glad you had sex with my wife but you can’t get more literally a cuckold perhaps right really so like I can’t if I’m gonna defend the the Maria on a pole match I think I do a wildly different though how well I think one of them is a joke the other one is being used as a insult and it’s an insult that is used by the worst parts of the internet community which as a justifies the stupid things that they say and I don’t think it was being done as like he is a cuckold it’s just like oh no he is a lower lower male and I’m gonna use that as a stupid Mose will record them a SOI boy for the idiocy that it sounded like so I think that you are wildly different personally I just it’s it’s literally what the word means no but that’s not what he was using it for though he wasn’t using it in the literal sense I mean I guess he could argue that he wasn’t but he was saying it when Mike had just said I’m happy you slept with my wife I don’t think we will agree to disagree on this one I don’t I don’t think they were using it for that term because I mean people even calling him a cook since he started because he took on her name which is not what a cuckold does but it’s just it’s I think they were using it for the the other version – pop – pop the darker areas that’s my take on it as opposed to using the literal center because I’m one of the it’s one of those words that has lost all meaning like the word clickbait has lost all meaning for what he actually was designed to use or canceled culture is lost or meaning well what do you guys think about Bruce’s return let’s check in on the sit sit sit super Jets so we’ve got an awful lot about through 7:00 this entire angle so we’ll just do some of them for now when the rest later we’ll start with Matthew Muldoon who said what if the story becomes who is rusev sleeping with backstage instead of who is the father of Maria’s baby Bulgarian Val Venis he’s got the look with the Tash put a towel round the guy absolutely it was great Josh Paulson says your headline is the understatement of the year my hairline no my head sorry the headline kinda just here insults everywhere saying Josh yeah we didn’t want to say ruin we’ve used that a lot recently didn’t you suggest chopper that we say effing botch they completely screwed up it was an S show etc Bulgarian Bulgarian balls up yeah nicaya business said should Myka Maria appear on Mallory Maury said of showman Draco yes I could Jeremy Carl thing yeah well this is soap opera stuff and I like soap operas stuff I mean if you look at it from a YouTube thumbnail WWE channel thing who is Maria’s baby’s father you know that’s i’m not against all that stuff I think that’s quite fun stories but yeah this this this really damaged Russo that’s the problem I’ve got a bit Zach icon Lintner said rusev mustache break please oh it’s coming in the video later on because not a big one yeah because it was a sad one we got sent one yeah I haven’t watched it yet yeah it’s very good very very good and runs for Jen shares similar feelings same time for rusev moustache break which as you said is coming later and held Torres says so how do you like the porno rusev gimmick love it love that – always loved it – sashes are amazing that sentiment is not shared by Markus Roman though he says and I don’t like Bruce’s new look he looks like he could be from narcos yeah that’s destiny a bit I mean I I think he does he does look better with the full beard for that character but you know maybe I’ll grow me I do think he looks awesome still though I’m just saying that the there have been three people who have recently had I say recently one of them was a number of years ago boom when Cody Rhodes had a mustache for a bit that got him over Robert Roode debut with the mustache that got him over for a couple of weeks from just saying it’s the way to get over these days is to have a good-looking Tash it’s what Don Frye was so good in UFC chasin Kerry Harmon said if rusev and Lana weren’t on the way out prior oh they’ve refined and this is the only push yeah that’s what I thought old guard he’s resigned he’s getting Instant Karma for doing so yeah Kevin said kacy catanzaro and Lana must have had a good time watching the whole thing yeah Casey gotten tired did tweet about it cuz she obviously she knew the maria was lying and she’s like a challenging her to a match thinks i’m fair she is pregnant mm-hmm and then finally for now before we get into the rest of the show Graham Scrivener said rusev is Freddie Mercury jacked yeah is there a pun there shreddy mercury he’s got it right now quickie years ladies and gentlemen Oh where’s the magazine oh let’s plug the magazine again because it goes in shops in two days time in the UK don’t worry if you don’t live in the UK though because you can get your issue from wrestle talk Big Cartel calm preorder that now it’s gorgeous nice little bit here in the news about CM Punk criticizes aew EVP Cody Rhodes for trying to do business with him via text message knows as we all know from CM Punk you’ve given me a time a date a place and the amount of money but that’s not an offer I just I just don’t know what I’m doing oh sorry in his also the anchor you’re gonna do right so they’re full episode of raw this is gonna be a pendulum swing I think that because it was pretty much I love this segment I hate this segment I love this segment we start off with all that convention into one Seth Rollins walks out smile on his face smiling oh his face instantly put me in a bad mood yeah and he walks into the ring and he goes and effectively recaps the pay-per-view which shouldn’t be your top babyfaces role that should be the job of the announcers team or a video package yeah when you give that stuff to Seth it makes him so lame and he’s talking he’s like oh but props to braun strowman Michael Cole isn’t doing him any favors calling him the monster slayer on commentary and I think Christ alive starts seeing that on his Titans from now he faints Lenox yeah he should he should have come out really angry this is what happened last night the fiend attacked me at the end of the show yeah and then just got I’m calling you out right now Bray Wyatt I haven’t got time for you nonsense cosplay crap maybe not say that but you know with that sentiment rather than coming at me like man what a night I had on Sunday a I had to defend my tag team title it’s like it it’s not the point here Seth get to the point mate used you that there are bigger fish to fry then you’re talking about the titles that I don’t think you’ll be cared about in the first place no thankfully Firefly fun ails them here yes and this segment went to 11 because everything on this show that Bray Wyatt touched was frickin gold he is onto something WWE know he’s onto something and they’re really really smartly using him you know just dropping him in just at the right moments I feel they’re not over exposing him they’re still making me want more all the time the treatment of him has been perfect and what we had here was Bray appear on the screen again adding a little bit of mythology to a little bit more to his mythology by saying oh I can’t but it’s my best friend Seth Rollins and he’s got like later on a friend wall yeah and it has all the people the fiend has taken out with the rise crossed yeah he’s like I’m so glad you’re okay but the fiend did to you was really really bad it’s so captivating and interesting the rabbit white pops up and just that’s screaming itself to run yeah get out of it you need to run now and brave I can’t get out of here to RAM them rabbit yeah and then Seth Rollins and that I think this is really significant I’m sorry if it’s happened before I couldn’t think of an example because Finn Balor would just stare gormless Lee at the screen whenever a skit played but Seth Rollins interrupted Bray and said you’re a sicko you’re a sick man and then Bray sort of out that’s when ramblin rabbit jumped yeah and I that marks the first time that someone has interacted with the Firefly funhouse world and it just makes it so much better because up until now everyone’s been like there’s Firefly funhouse I don’t really know how to deal with it shall I address what just happened is it existing in its own weld I don’t know but Seth probably called out prey called him a sicko and that’s so useful because now I’m like yeah he’s a sicko yeah he’s not the coolest guy way is the coolest guy but he is also a sicko and it makes me got me into both sides of the feud and Bray’s great promo work continued when he said that you know hey I’ve made mistakes so have you said you’ve made mistakes but you know what friends do friends forgive but the fiend can’t forgive and and that’s why he had to say hello to you at clash of Champions I love that like goes braised this unit mr. Wachtell character he had to say hello to you know I had to give you the matter or correlate you out with crazy violins playing to say hello yeah a nice friendly hello from the fiend my leg sue do you think this was live or do you think this was a pre-tape that they left a gap in for Seth to interact because I’m not sure to be honest up until now I would say all of braze stuff has been pre filmed in the day and played as a VT yes whereas I think this could have been live backstage and they just add the sound effects yeah as they go and then that gives Seth to time to respond widget and that would mark a quite a distinct backstage production how they do these which makes a lot more vibrant which they get with their hat to do really because you can do all of it pre tapes like when you’ve done the first run of Firefly fan house when you were just we’re gonna do a new episode every week you could you had the time to be able to produce them and you know get them all ready but now as a on-screen character and they’re recurring on-screen character he’s gonna have to start doing stuff live in the day and about two weeks ago thing I think I said I was worried about that change coming because I felt like more people would have their creative input it would dilute prey down I just got I just got freaked out by one of the episodes where they put the fiends face over braised face insulting that’s a bit cheesy and not subtle like they’ve done before so it’s it’s enormous ly comforting to see them make this change and it’s still excellent it is so so good he said am yeah the fiend might have more to say tonight then there’s a lone pause he goes toodles yeah see yeah see in hell he does that and then all the graphics were upside down well so just before that um the crowd popped huge when Bray said the fiend might be there tonight yeah I was like God the days of pops for announcements like that haven’t been around for a while like you just get a yay got this much coming up later this was a genuine excitement oh my god he’s gonna be here yeah like back in the day one of the loudest pops ever Solomon’s droids talks about it was when I think Linda McMahon said that Stone Cold Steve Austin would be on the show next week and it got like this sustained two minutes super pop yeah and you’re like that doesn’t happen these things entrances when the people are actually there don’t get those kinds of pops but Bray is so over right now the fiend is so over that everyone was excited at the prospect of seeing him not confirmation the prospect yeah and that’s that’s really exciting yeah it’s not like a a show long run of of Bray Wyatt seconds but yeah all the graphics were then upside down so initially I think a lot of people thought this was a production error but Rene was like why are all the graphics upside down then it was over a bit of a pause almost as if like they were acknowledging that there was an Arab you have a theory on what this is oh yeah oh I think and I think that’s confirmed by the end of the show that was foreshadowing the the end sequence which was the Firefly funhouse credits played for 90 seconds it was for ages I loved it some people were like well they had time to fill I’m like no go full into the weirdness okay the second verse and the fiend appears at the end of the show lays out cane and just terrifies Seth Rollins and that’s that’s he go off air shot and then the last 90 seconds are the Firefly funhouse credits but they distort they flip upside down I think that those upcoming match graphics but being upside down was definitely intentional it foreshadows this but at the end this you know if i’m to fantasy books this and i I think this is where they’re going based on this this is the star of the Firefly funhouse slowly taking over roars production and feel so maybe next week I think you had the really good idea of the match graphics are like drawn like the Firefly Florida yeah and then by the time you get to the go home show the whole of Raw is a Firefly funhouse episode and the commentators are like we don’t know how this is happening and I guess like logically you sit back and you go well how is brain control of the graphics and the worst thing they can do here is make it up to a supernatural thing I think you know you watch a slasher movie and the psychopathic killer has a lot of access to things to freak people out and play mind games there are those who believe that Jason can teleport you know what I wouldn’t go that’s good well that’s the point I was gonna make was a lot of people believe that he can teleport whereas my ration I was like oh he doesn’t teleport just he knows the woods so Wells that he can just get around them quicker than anyone else can yeah so I’m just I’m given them the been the benefit of the doubt and theorizing that Bray is tormenting production people to do this for him because it’s part of a larger plan to destroy Seth hey I’m freaking excited I’m yeah I think the idea of a firefly funhouse centric raw is an exciting prospect also fills me slightly with red because it’s like yeah might be one steps too far but the mere prospect of it and the prosper that you’ve been poisoning here we of the he’s gonna be just sort of slowly taking over all this upside down graphics was the start of it the the outro credits at the end was the next step that does kind of excite me a little bit and yeah it is sort of like the this omnipresence just overshadowing its like the upside down trying to take over Hawkins in in real life yeah and totally understandable to be sort of worried about it because WWE do not have a good track record but you know who has Bray Wyatt has he put a step wrong since this fiend character debuted I guess at the start when it was just the rocking puppets I look back on those now and I know I liked all of it and then they ran it slightly too long yeah yeah but like overall that this is a unprecedented amount of critical success I would say so very exciting stuff then we cut backstage braun strowman tells Charlie Caruso the next guy in this room is gonna good these urns these ends and then Roode and Ziggler came and I was like oh no hope nobody got worse yeah and I was like oh man that means Roode and Ziggler gonna be mates the complete chumps they just won the tag belts that stupid then the revival came and I was like lads you can’t do this surely it was a tank title summit where they all got to celebrate in the ring because their heels and of course braun strowman came down and i say my review later literally and figuratively ran over a tank division on both brands Scott Dawson and tweeted out when are we going to learn that we can’t beat up braun strowman it’s this is terrible like as if the last four weeks weren’t enough with Braun and Seth undermining the tank division as and you know it completely gut in it this that I just thought we were gonna put a full-stop on that and now we’re back to it being okay but know this the tech division looks like a joke yeah and then we got christened blitek criss cross and bliss backstage with coffee and made fun of sasha banks saying they’re true champions they’re going to show it nights and then the the sort of rubbish undermining of stuff continued with the OSI taken on Cedric Alexander and the Viking raiders something that was sort of set up the previous week and of course AJ just squashed I think we can quite safely say Cedric on the cock pre-show they got a six-man tag here with the Viking team with the Viking raiders so he came out to no reaction whatsoever by the way who did Cedric yeah yeah because why would he yeah they’re flattening him out and there it was a fun ishm a CH I was a bit when I was watching it was like well how can I get into the Cedric now Ajay’s already beaten him and they kept saying I’ll Cedric’s a future champion in this company like he’s gonna win so many titles in this company but he was not the better man against AJ Styles and I’m like no he was a terrible man his age I was he looked absolutely rubbish and then he just lost here again yeah and then got beaten up half of the match phenomenal forearm from AJ he pinned Cedric then AJ continues to beat him up after the match Cedric starts to come back and I and pass this anyway but okay Cedric’s gonna make it come back and stand tall here not even that AJ Styles hits an avalanche Styles crash and that’s it Alexander has been for whatever reason completely buried no I’m reading she had a message just before we came out on air someone’s defending this ever so slightly say that I wouldn’t say where’s the message I know the reports that Vince wanted Cedric buried at the same time as Cedric took most of the orphans in their tank match before he got pinned and then fought back before taking the Stars clash that doesn’t exactly seem like a burial to me and then said and I said one he’s still lost like I don’t remember the comeback quite convincingly yeah I said I wouldn’t say AJ only got the pin on Cedric because Cedric was taking out the OSI and in trailers that AJ was tagged in and the commentary was putting over how Cedric seems more vicious towards AJ like their fuse was set to continue it just wouldn’t make any sense to say he’s getting buried but commentary said and I quote rick has aggression befitting a future champion Michael Cole says what a moment yes it doesn’t make it a moment I I just look good for you you’re into this me I think this is awful and it’s completely flattened out centric and they’ve ruined him and it’s gonna take months of rebuilding if they want to try and rebuild him which I don’t think they will and that’s profoundly depressing my worry is is that they do think that this is working and it’s the Daniel Bryan oh just keep beating him and beating him and beating him and they get over because of that whereas the what they forget is the Daniel Bryan got over in spite of their terrible booking of him in that in that summer period thankfully we can shift gears now because I love the next thing it was one of those bits that ran throughout the night the 24/7 title our truth is in Knoxville Tennessee and someone is a mayor of Knox County in that same state it’s Glenn Jacobs aka Kane and r-truth and Carmela go to like a Hall of Fame play they were in a museum I broke down I don’t know what museum it was I think it was like the women’s basky there was a big basketball on your ceiling I believe on the seating on the roof anyway there was some truth comedy that was carmella doing that this is so funny and then there’s Glenn Jacobs who was perfect so good news I do you remember me said yeah you’re Larry Bird did make me laugh and he says um I want to show you around this great city cuz I’m the mayor here I’ve got a limo outside waiting for us and trees like that sounds like fun I think Carmela has already worked all of this out so she’s giving Jane the shifty eyes and I thought this was I was like I can’t wait to see where the next segment of this yeah yeah very good and then the the goodness continued with the King of the Ring final between Chad Gable and Baron Corbin I would be even higher on this if it wasn’t just if it hadn’t just so obviously become an afterthought for this company oh yeah I think by the end of week one we should have seen that this was a joke tournaments we did initially say I mean I initially something said that it would be a joke tournament because it’s got a joke give me at the end of it where you get there crown and scepter and everything and some people have brought me up on this saying like well it wasn’t a joke when Brock Lesnar won it was like well yeah Brock Lesnar didn’t wear a crown he just won a tournament that made him the best wrestler in the company same when Kurt Angle won it he was just like oh yeah you’re the best one now and you get a future title shot this was very much they don’t know you are going home you get it become a cartoon character at the end of this and I think a few people thought this was going to be WWE doing a g1 and there were moments in there we worked it out it was over 50% of very good matches but it when you compare that to the Gy oh yeah yeah yeah but that’s what I think people thought this was going to be when you look at the the amount of talent in this tournament this could be like every week we get a five star match or a four and a half star match what something along those lines but in reality what we got was a lot of three and a half star matches that were very good for television and yeah by the end of week one I think most people had worked out oh no this is not being taken seriously it’s mostly just angles and you know what’s not there for wrestling yeah well the problem was this this took a considerable knock in prestige because it was originally meant to be the finals were meant to be a cock and then it was bumped to raw and I thought well you know it could be a main event it’s not a main event wasn’t even the second our main event it was the first our match and it just really liked that placement just tells me as a viewer all I don’t have to care about this I also I mean I’m gonna get into the positives very very shortly but my last negative for this is because of the way the tournament has been booked and structured for me the Chad gable Cinderella story has not worked yeah and I think if this had been a better told tournament this chad gable final could have been a really really big deal oh yeah as it stands it just felt like it was any old match on Raw at the end of you get a crown but with that out the way this was a terrific match Baron Corbin has been the MVP of this tournament and I’m super glad he won yeah yeah and isolated from all that other stuff in ring this was corking I was talking to Luke before we came in here and I said you know what I’ll save this for the the show because we watched this very early in the morning we get up and we watch Raw and then we come in and we make all nos and stuff so I’m there at 7:00 a.m. watching this episode this match my girlfriend’s asleep by the end I am legit yelling I don’t usually yell at the screen for things especially at that time and I was yelling tap tap tap I was completely absorbed by this great moment where Cedric century where Chad locks in the the great vine ankle lock on Baron I jet I bought into that as the face oh I was like Corbin’s gets happy because they’d worked over the leg and he’d wrapped it around the poster like this is it this is where it’s gonna happen there was a bit shortly before where yang said you’re my height now Corbin and and of course there’s so much context there with Kurt Angle earlier in the year the ankle look Baron unfairly retired him and his last match and now he’s gonna tap to the Chad gable ankle lock but I love the grapevine and then like he was reaching and he got it and then Baron turned it round hit the end of days I yelled know like that 1 2 3 Baron wins I was you know but like I was worked so hard by this match and at the end of it even though the heel won I’m not like I was cheated I was like damn that was enjoyable like that’s no higher like you know sort of praise for a match like this I thought it was a really really good final to this moment I thought I thought Corbin it looked great and it’s funny actually someone’s sent us a clip of a video that we did a few weeks back it was when Sasha returns I know they sent in a super chat saying Baron Corbin is gonna win and our reaction was oh that sounds awful and we had said in our the first time when we talked about the cameras on he’s either gonna be out first round or he’s winning the whole thing and I think we said that he was gonna be out first round when we were still under the pretence it was gonna be a tournament based around wrestling but really at the end of the day this was the right choice he was too completely the person that should have won this tournament and not just because it suits his gimmick so well he has stepped up like as a performer he is leveled up remember before this tournament started he had a month off and that month like before that month off he was one of the worse things in the company not necessarily because of him but just the way he was over pushed and he just bared over everything but since coming back he is he has settled into this midcard heel role and he is so good right level for us well we’ve always said on this show he’s not the problem it’s the over pushing it was the problem he shouldn’t be in that universal championship picture but as a midcard he’ll he’s so so good at it it’s the Miz the Miz shouldn’t be a WWE Champion The Miz is a great midcard Heil yeah and Baron Corbin slots into that role perfectly yeah also I just got real Daniel Bryan Brock Lesnar vibes from this match you know were the first 10 minutes it’s just the heel dominating but then Chad started to come back I thought this was absolutely terrific yeah I don’t know where gable goes from here or shortly gee yeah or just not on TV hopefully – aw yeah I think that all go to when Eckstein hmm maybe that’s a better use of him he’s gonna get lost on the main roster again yeah then we got the whole Kanellis Andrew substr Bray was in the middle there with a skit hanging up photos of his friend the wall of friendship it’s all it’s like Jerry Lawler and Finn Balor and Foley and angle and yeah he’s like oh there’s a person I need to hang up here I’ve got a new friend to add to the wall so that was a nice touch it was also a million here I thought we were gonna get a video package for NXT I was wrong no no they did this a few times where they started talking about how great annex tears and then that’s it they throw to something more important yeah as opposed to a big announcement fee so that the only thing I would change about this wall of friendship is that everyone he’s taken out had their eyes quite gruesomely crossed out with red Seth hasn’t been taken out properly yet gotta take that class of champions but not properly properly everyone else has just sort of disappeared from TV oh yeah so I would have no crosses on the eyes very very minor though that’s just what I would have fed back if brain was it me and Bray love bouncing ideas off each other yeah that’s that would be my feedback we owed more with Kanan truth they were at the stadium for the volunteers the Knoxville I’m gonna guess Knoxville volunteers or Knox County volunteers Tennessee probably Tennessee Volunteers but I was thinking I’ve got a slight detractors because I obviously don’t know a lot about the American sports or British sports for that matter but um I if it’s not past the 1990s or if it is past nicey-nice rather but one of the my favorite things about American sports are the names like here it’s just it’s the town you’re in you’re Manchester six club you’re just the club yeah where are you from where teams based where you’re asked or then where’s your team or in time where you’re top and then where you where West at McGill West Ham whereas in America it’s like the it’s the Titans since then bald eagles it’s the these sorts of things and I was like we don’t have like the Merseyside lifer Birds it’s just Liverpool and maybe that’s what’s missing oh yeah more more possess more possess well Pro Wrestling yes they were in that and this was a really funny skit I thought Glen Jacobs again was but it’s so good at comedy he’s yeah and truth was really good kept calling Kane mr. president yeah because he’s in a suit so of course he’s the president this guy comes out he’s a police officer yeah police officer but he’s also a referee choose realizes what’s up he runs it yep and he runs into the and he runs into the the goal triangle and and Kane pinned him is the 24/7 champ I’ve still got it great yes and then cold buried the football team because of it and then it was announced that Baron Corbin would have his coronation ceremony on Smackdown yet that would be my main criticism again think the King drinks I thought they did such a good job of the match and then there was like no aftermath to he just walked up the ramp and they just cut to something else yeah and he didn’t even get to sit on the throne no just cut away um then we got Rey Mysterio versus Cesaro still continue in this Rey Redemption arc not redemption but you know come back to come back yeah because he was going to retire and Dominic convinced him to stay this was great I love TV Cesaro is fantastic yeah ray one yeah yeah that’s I’ve got nothing it’s very very good really really good match then we got some more Bray hanging up the wall of friendship then the commentators start pushing the draft and off that which will happen October 11th and 14th so the second week of smackdown on Fox and then they ran a video package for who are a oh I really like this hmm yeah this was great I really really like this it’s a Oh piece at their Institute look amazing just look like super serious doesn’t really fit their gimmick like but they just look like super serious MMA fighters yeah and they’re tall and they cut promos in their own languages and that was really really awesome it’s subtitled that’s good that is treating your audience with respect that it’s not like well our audience a thick is anything’s they can’t read car they’ll switch over they’ll change the channel which I do feel the Hollywood and sort of like TV bigwigs do think of American audiences like if we ask them to read they’ll just flick over and watch something else give it two weeks Sami Zayn will be out there with him ob page hey ope they got promos in their own languages and said that they haven’t add a match since WrestleMania and it’s like when they were in MMA people were too scared to fight them they couldn’t make any money as mixed martial artists because people were afraid to fight them yeah the tank division is soft and they’re gonna write the book of pain on everyone and although they said they have another match since WrestleMania like well what about the battle royal guys the super important battle royal over in Saudi Arabia yeah well this was really good like I at the end of it I was like we’ll just put poor lettering with them this this would be much better bit you know what I I didn’t mind this no I like if they can talk in their own languages I think it’s more intimidating if they can stick with it yeah so then we got Sasha banks and Bailey taking on the women’s Tag Team Champions we’ve got a bit X of listen Nikki cross got a bit of character work here from Michael Cole because he went it’s past time Corey’s like he used to be so excited to say there’s like she’s really upset me really disappoint me with those actions so we’re still getting bossed I was out last time also did you notice Bailey doesn’t inflate the tube men until people cheer for her yeah that’s nice as well it’s good sort of misguided yeah so this was an okay match it was made mostly based around Bailey taken out Alexis leg on the steel steps which looked pretty good and then it was just Nicky cross in a two-on-one handicap valiantly trying to fight back against the two heels I think we can now officially say a lecture and Nicky baby faces they’ve been consistently baby faces now I think for two weeks and that’s the longest run they’ve had my kid might even be longer than that she’s gonna bury the hometown on Smackdown tonight now you’ve said that quite possibly so I’m I am comfortably saying they are now baby faces okay yep and Nicky cross works that way terrifically here I thought she was really good with her comeback born into her trapping sash her in the apron and then still doing the dropkick on her as well when she was beating up bailing this was like I got to take out the other one again I thought I was actually very very nice now where this sort of falls down for me is Bailey’s been booked really weakly she’s always the weak link since the Bailey session turn there’s always a weak link since she went to the main roster yeah but you know like she’s actually in keeping with her character she was Smackdown when she is Smackdown Women’s Champion now she’s been booked like a someone who can’t wrestle like something turning heel means she can’t win anymore I guess there’s a character side to that but then after the match Nicky crossed any beater at Sasha banks that had to pick up the win then Becky Lynch runs down saves Nicky cross from her Sasha banks chair down chair down showdown it was pretty much they were hitting each other’s chair light saber phone with chairs and then Charlotte’s music here babyface Charlotte Flair and Bailey goes after her with a chair with a chair yep but Charlotte’s heels was so big she managed to take out Bailey before Bailey could hit her with a chair hit the leg with a chair you see how many steps Charlotte had to take if you’re going out to the ring and you know you’re going to do a big boot on someone who was running you with a chair don’t wear heels like that because you can’t run in them I have no idea what she was thinking with this to make everyone else look small this is the guy down at Stephanie’s playbook this is a triple H move is a sort of ilk that’s what she’s been raised but she looked Dumber for it because she looked like she couldn’t walk because she had said these little tiny steps before hitting the move she looked like a right doofus she looked dumb everyone else looked worse that’s because she is still towering above them by quite some way yeah maybe yeah and that baby looks stupid she looked really weak and Charlotte stood tall at the end of this anyway Sasha’s turned heel Bailey’s turned heel Becky’s the man somehow a baby face Charlotte is standing tall at these segments like how you say somehow yeah well that’s really it should be of course Charlotte still one that stands tall and it’s just it’s something to watch because I think it’s only gonna get worse because really at the end of the day WWE don’t want to push those other three people they want to push Charlotte yeah well I can see banks and Bailey getting the tag straps and then leading to the four horsemen in a tag match Becky and Charlotte the uneasy alliance trying to win the tag titles together yeah I can see that Sasha cut a promo directly into the camera after that challenging BEC into a Reem a rematch at Hell in a Cell and then Becky accepted yes you had a $10,000 fine for hittin that referee but she didn’t seem bothered about my stupid well do you see an accident does everyone get fine back way when there are f-bombs Oh Javier quite but also Kevin Owens like it was a personal slight on him and it was a big deal it was a whole storylines Ben and turn out for it well it was ten times more well yes but even it even at nine ten thousand he would have reacted the same way the key to this though is that Becky didn’t say she just wanted a rematch at hella so she wanted a rematch inside Hell in a Cell I missed that yeah oh I should have probably mentioned that somewhere yeah yeah it’s a rematch inside Hell in a Cell sir accent can’t understand a word shit what she needs is Paige oh yeah really get that PCV thing but in between that we got more of cane takane arrived and guessing at the hotel or you know the president slot wherever he stays and lives wasn’t at Monday Night Raw no I thought the train to Monday night oh I don’t know wherever they are right but truth was riding on top of his limo and can get out of the limo and truth jumps up rolls him up and pins him so he gets the the champion back yen and king crabs him by the throat he shoves him up against the car and it’s like mr. president mr. president this is a full-time job for you this belts a full-time job you haven’t got time to do both of them in case like ya know you’re absolutely right and let’s go if he was like come on I’ll take you to Monday Night Raw he’s like choking so hers is like yes sorry it’s just really instinctive cuz now in this cafe world the mayor of Knox County is someone who is instinctively wants to choke people and he’s a demon so when when they said let’s go to raw what was your first thought I don’t know I didn’t think that came would come out at the end really no I was like okay so the fiends gonna jump him and that that’s not a that’s not a bad thing I just think no I dined as they said that I didn’t see the cane return coming until the music here now I was like oh well that makes a heck of a lot of sense but in that beatdown I mean maybe we’ll get to it I was expecting the fiend to be the one that comes down and clears house mmm and save Seth well because he once set for himself okay well that’s dude so next was a match with Lacey Evans and Dana Brooke Dana Brooke looks like she’s completely changed their body type and the fourth Dana Brooke I think we’ve cast and Lacey Evans one with a woman’s right but then into a sharpshooter because she’s still building some form of feud with natty this was pretty good I think Lacey Evans is really winning she has this slingshot dropkick that she does yeah brilliant so so good and her sharpshooter way better than Italian yeah she sat right back on it yes really great okay so the main event they were Seth Rollins versus Robert Roode a match that got zero heat because why would you care really it’s unfortunate because in another youniverse this is a pay-per-view major pay-per-view headlining match but Dolph kept on interfering and Seth eventually won with a buckle bomb stomp but they don’t get the wings yeah don’t don’t Vince beard so we did get the win fire DQ yeah yeah fair enough yeah yeah and then Dolph and Robert beat them down if there’s a beatdown you better believe the ousia getting down and I know it looks it’s a bit like just fudging things together but how the OSI keep on into even themselves in loads of different sections of raw I like it it makes it feel like they’re a big thing yeah but the real reason behind this was to get as many bodies in the ring as possible because Kane’s music hits pain comes down he takes out rude and dolphin he choke slams gallows he gives a double chokeslam to Anderson and AJ he’s about it it was taunt and then the lights kachunk kachunk kachunk fiends their fiend attacks Kane gives him the mandible claw which he can do because Kane’s got his silly mask on and then he stalks Rollins at the end of the show and rollers essentially pisses his pants yeah and cries in the corner my god set like Seth sell job of that was amazing people be really down on that saying like I saw how you should book a world champion and I’m like they’re not booking him booking him to look weak he’s scared because the dude is a scary character that’s good it puts over the fiend he was just beaten up by five guys not the restaurant trade change and it’s hopping to I said that’ll be 20 pounds and the ordered ships 20 pounds have as many nuts as you want and the okay so my didn’t make him look weak is what with Genesis I really really thought Seth did a great job it really got me more into this feud between them yeah but in my head I thought all the fiends gonna come down and the fiend will be the one to clear house or the phenol get in the ring and everyone will back off from the thing cuz they don’t want they don’t want none no they don’t want none and the fiend just once settle to himself I felt that they did the Cain thing just for the hometown pop and if you’re gonna do the Cain just for the hometown pop do that earlier in the show I see what you’re saying I think this was very good I think it was bad I’m just saying I think a more effective way to have done this would have been because okay putting Cain in the main event slot just for the hometown pop I thought was it’s like bringing out Austin just to get that that ratings bump and if fiend didn’t then take him out I’d agree with you but because this was it wasn’t to get Kane the hometown pop it was to get the theme though but the other side of that as well was that Brady said last week that he’s only targeting people that have done him wrong in the past and that’s why he wouldn’t attack a stick okay so there is I can’t explain that and I don’t know how in depth I don’t know how much I’m just adding this but Kane did have the relationship with Seth in the authority back in the day and if a lot of brays motivation in fact this is a cave site seats his review of Raw brought this up a lot it was a very interesting viewpoint if Bray is very much about Redemption mm-hmm and a revenge yeah revenge and also how sometimes people are forgiven and he the fiend doesn’t think they should be forgiven part of Seth’s character is you know I was in the authority now I’ve come out of that I’m a better person burn it down yadda yadda there is a connection there between Kane and Seth it’s almost like Bray’s targeting Kane as a way to get to Seth and punish him I know that your family or filling in those gaps but that’s how good the character is that I can quite happily sit there and go that was deep man yeah they probably had no intention they had no intention but we are filling in those gaps for them I just think if it was focused on brain Seth that would have been better in my opinion in my humble opinion and then the show finished but it had 90 seconds as we said earlier of the Firefly funhouse thing going now I was interested I showed this segment my lady partner lady partner does not like Ruslan and I said but she is into the Firefly funhouse stuff cuz I’ve showed it to and she’s like that’s really cool and I said but if you were just flicking around I’m not home it’s 9 o’clock you’re just flicking around on telly and you see that that Firefly funhouse things going weird and subvert in would you just stop and watch it and see what happened even if it was wrestling I thought that’s that’s it that’s really important to get mainstream views anyway I thought overall I gave it an average this episode because I freaking hated some massive parts of it but the fiend is so good it kind of balanced it outs in the middle I mean come in agreement with you I’d have also given it a fraud yeah the fiends very very good and I very much enjoy Baron Corbin winning King of the Ring there are a lot of I do not like the Rousseff return I do not like the Cedric stuff but there was quite a lot of positive on this show average show yeah so a long review that was about an hour there so let’s get into the sit sit sit super chance if you’d like another quick link between Bray Wyatt and Kane Bray Wyatt’s first ever when he came back as Bray Wyatt Husky Harris the first pay-per-view match he had was against Kane in an inferno Bray Wyatt’s for as the character operators came with the wife on main roster yeah an inferno much anyway the rest of the super chats about Roose ever get through first Anthony foster said why not have rusev face AJ for the title on his return and have been better mmm-hmm Elijah Whitfield said what day is today and poor excuse for a return rousseff day yeah resent each other thanks man Graham Scrivener leading on from his shreddy mercury joke earlier saying rousseff don’t stop him now he’s having such a good time mmm a good time with a lovely time with the boys almost Wilson saw him and says I stand by what I said a few weeks ago Myka Maria go to marriage counseling and dr. Shelby wins the 24/7 title but I’ve got this 24/7 title yep Vala mommy do pooty says I absolutely load the Cannella story line but at the same time I don’t know how anyone could come out of this looking good fantasy booking yeah and I’m aware of this look Maria could come out looking good of this yeah like she’s she feels like a star if I was the fantasy book my way of this I would take the WWE tactic of just ignoring it just completely dropping it in there next week something completely different happens and then they make no reference to it the Grizzly gentleman says if the kinetise story was reversed there would be outrage grave saying he looks like a loser and he’s weak it’s nice that Derby wev finds male victims of mental / domestic abuse funny I guess that’s one quite yeah that’s one one reason of it but yeah I think if you did it the other way would be Dawkins you know Dawkins is sleeping around at the moment that’s and he’s horny maybe he’s not he just wants to sleep around with everyone that he’s that he’s a single man who was looking to sow some oats but once he gets a finds a lady that you can settle down with yeah well Adams Luke Owens number one fan says rusev stole roots moustache yeah well roots is bushier wasn’t it this is rusev is a bit thinner great styles they look exactly which is what don’t like Robert Roode had the Don Frye mustache so good the Hagar mustache continuing the stashes sit Hesh midge anchor says Rousseff deserves moustache breaks from now on yeah he’s taking the mantle Robert hasn’t had it for a while we’re going to the ones about the King of the Ring now Vernon Jeffrey says a valiant effort by chant gabled but the midcard vortex was too strong all hail king baron also welcome back Brandi handed out sand if you’re reading the super chat which he’s not but thanks I think the midcard vortex is now a badge of honor for Barrett yeah he’s turned it round he’s claimed it Danny trash man DeVito says can’t give raw conquer brought a rating of core without Corbin Joseph Gonzales says life spins life’s been tough lately but King Corbin gives me a reason to live he’s gone I said this last week that was that was the turning point your cream your crowd start to cheer him and put him over as the babyface against Samoa Joe and ricochet and that was gonna be the start of it and people are now going to be ironically cheering him as the heel I’m I’m so into him as a heel honestly I was I was a kid again I was so worked by that match and being into who I wanted to win and lose being grateful is on pay-per-view yeah petty Kruger says Corbin should get an IC title push and we lured Corbin hope you hope you guys have a little bit of the bubbly with the boys hash tag Corbin versus chopper for the crown rather not well yet let’s go for the u.s. title fee’s still on Raw I mean granted there were five Phillips make that tag to him so it doesn’t matter too much I would love Baron as an Intercontinental Champion no because the indicator champion comes with a curse we can’t get on TV not when it’s Baron by the pull of the Intercontinental Champion vortex is strong everyone just falls into it headmaster Jonathan headman says describe what you think King Corbin’s new wrestling gear will look like if there’s any changes how similar to King chopper whoppers will it be I think he’ll have the same Girish it’ll come down with the cape and crown and the scepter yeah and that will be a hill like shrug it off his shoulders yeah I’m hoping he comes out in I can’t remember what they’re called but the sort of carriage is that yeah all buff men hold on their shoulders yet I want to live there called Palin Keynes Palin Keynes Connor Shaw says do you guys think watching the gable and Corbin match will it match of the night at Kok if it was on the pay-per-view PS gave up the great work guys you know it had a good finish it went really long that big bump that gable took we was back dropped into the timekeepers area and he just cut it with all those chairs I actually think it might have been cuz he would’ve had the ant break in there yeah it could have been yeah I mean Rowan and Roman would have been the most spectacular with the return at the end but that had a sizable down chunk in the middle this was great all the way through soon yeah you’re right probably would have been we got a whole one about Hell in a Cell the ad map to says ten years after the first Hell in a Cell pay-per-view and w/e still can’t book a few to culminate in October yeah they know when it’s happening I guess but it makes sense with the the fiend like I think this is all quite nicely playing into the fiends character Hell in a Cell see you in Hell but I think you will end the Becky Sasha storyline except the back is going across to SmackDown mm-hmm now we’ve got lots about the fiend Tristan thorn said the fiend was excellent how he just stalked Seth and Seth looked terrified that’s how you do a main event seen more of this please Cheers yeah I disagree they’ve won who’s with those we’re complaining about it saying that it made Seth that week the rocket damn barn sky says there’s no way Rollins is retaining it Hell in a Cell right feels like this entire pay for you is being designed and geared towards the fiend yeah no I’m I’m putting faith in WWE here they’re gonna pull the trigger this is one of those times where they have listened to the audience we have actually been the authority for a change and they are gonna go through with this yeah I think and I nearly swore then they will be effing idiots if they do either a lame finish or lame duck finish or Seth retains DQ and analyst L could you in it’s an anniversary show I really hope I’m gonna be I don’t think they can get it wrong I’m gonna pop huge when it happens not just because I’m so happy for the fiends character but just out of relief because I’m still so worried yeah we sitting here in less than a month just going one with a jump cut yeah okay yeah prediction for the restaurant all title how WWE botched Helena sell I think that would probably be worth your expletives in the title yeah risky monetization just Finland as I’m Cassie said fiend is amazing bracelet be head of creative I yeah it’s certainly like down the line when he’s retired and hanging up the boots second an agent mmm-hmm yeah space on the creative team definitely he’s got such a good mind I’d like to see him if I was to put him anywhere to go down to NXT and work work developmental with people working on their characters and kind of like finding what their character is and who their character means to them I think that’s one of greatest strengths well for him sometimes that doesn’t necessarily work being a like teaching other people and finding it for other people but god yeah so good at friends himself the rocket demo this guy comes in again with back-to-back super chat saying when do you see us getting fiend and take a segment feels like the fiend is the one to finally retire take a cane segment maybe was a foreshadowing of this I think it could happen at Survivor Series earliest you know if he wins a title their big Undertaker match at Survivor Series I think that’d be great unless it’s gonna be if they’re gonna do raw versus Smackdown this year and it’s the fiend versus Kofi mmm-hmm so just so the raw guys can win again and once again demos guy says do you think the awkwardly long funhouse ending of Raw was to make people think WB’s upside down botch was really the fiend messing with our TV I mean when you think is what you think is all by design as opposed to it being a botch yeah people think it was a production error but you think it was by design no no I just say if you go back to all in remember they had that power outage power outage midway through the show which meant when Chris Jericho appeared with the Anakim mask later on people surprised but and the Fozzie tattoo yeah Mike do Charmy says fantasy booking fiend wins at Hell in a Cell holds it till mania balla returns at the rumble as the demon and wins it fiend versus demon bala at WrestleMania and now I think god I don’t really I don’t even want to think about how you book the fiend losing the belt and I don’t think Finn’s the one to take it off him I either know the fiends layer will be Kevin comes in to imagine graves : young replaced by the puppets yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean that that would be a bit gimmicky but for a bit it would be very funny I mean you you turned me on to this when someone said do you think we’ll get Becky inside Firefly fun house and you said only as a puppy and I was like that even better like if they have if he has puppet versions of the people that he’s gonna be feuding with and you have prey essentially you know interviewing them inside the five I’ll be well up for that Justin bour Lee said is WWE is doubly w/e actually building the fiend as a star I thought they already have there he is a star like and that that is credit to WWE they have not overexposed him they have kept him just a map just the right amount well done WWE you haven’t screwed it up yet Garrett lippy says hey peeps go with the great name again hope all is well I don’t know about your lady partners but mine is absolutely freaked out by the fiend the ending overall gave her nightmares yeah my wife thought it was a bit goofy I can see why if you if you know if you’re not into it yeah you would hate it yeah my lady partner really likes it my lady partner doesn’t watch wrestling so sunny won’t make her piggy curiosity dude do show us some of the Firefly funhouse things and said she’s seen the funhouse stuff before um all right okay it’s mostly even universe exactly yeah cannot stop its Steven universe songs on repeat in our house the worst it’s all about the goofy movie soundtrack on loop at the moment Sony freight loader says don’t you know he backed themselves in a corner with the fiend and Seth because now the fiend will either lose a Hell in a Cell or someone has to the match I’d say that the fiend has to win but yeah lien has to win then the fiend can win and then they’d book themselves to a corner at this point it’s not like this is different to CM Punk right back there they had booked themselves into a corner because Punk’s whole title reign was to put it on the rock it was to make the W title feel very prestigious so that when the rock wins it it feels like a really big deal so you can do rock versus Cena again at WrestleMania for the title so Punk’s whole reign was done by design problem is they then booked him into a match inside how in the cellar against the unbeaten Ryback where well Punk can’t lose because the whole point of his run is so he’s undefeated but we can’t beat Ryback either so we have to do this finish that they did which was a dreadful dreadful finish so this isn’t the complete opposite of that Shawn Turner says the fiend will attack Corbin tomorrow you watch or no what what were they at at time yeah that slots him in the wrong position got a couple about the tag division to Vontae Lee said this is like the fourth time in two years brought his beat in the tank division by himself in random segments or matches it’s ridiculous yeah oh yeah he’s big they’re very small the mayor of Paintsville Dan in this is probably the most anger I’ve ever heard him in my life saying the burial of the tank division is an absolute disgrace it’s shameful they bury so many super talented people that are in these divisions wasting their careers I absolutely hate it and it’s been happening for years yeah well you were just gonna look forward to aw for this they’re gonna treat tag-team wrestling with the respect it deserves NXT well as well because Triple H is a big fan of it yeah it’s a real Triple H like Stipe team wrestling young bucks and Cody and Kenny love tag-team wrestling Vince McMahon hates tag-team wrestling we got a few about various different subjects ron’s for a Jen said Kane really has to let Luke Gallows his imposter Kane thing Gould Shawn Turner says I roll my eyes so hard when Seth opens his mouth I’m more entertained with ollie Seth impression I miss Roman he doesn’t do a lot of cheap pops that’s because they just transferred all of Romans dialogue onto Seth now yeah Timon Uzumaki says Nala was blatantly smiling while coming out is quite evident that all the horse women enjoy working together IMO well that she’s a baby face yeah or she was told to smile because when you smile the weld smiles with you yeah just don’t wear those massive heels selections on stilts and now we have the miscellaneous ones Rex Joseph Cameron says besides rusev and Cedric this was a 4.7 five out of five show oh that big those tough to enjoy sure but I did the rusev stuff and the sedgwick stuff and the tag division stuff and the King of the Ring stuff since that’s probably like yeah there’s a lot of bad on here Jesse venable said noticed elf a Edoras ninth overall then wrestle league I’m 11 places back from him and that’s 911 this can mean one thing biggy he’ll turn confirmed it’s written it’s written in the stars million miles away KJ says which wrestler do you love no matter how much they get mistreated for me it’s Dolph Ziggler hashtag he’ll Kevin Owens yeah god there’s so many to choose from rude I think limps says take aways number one the fiend equals chaos to ricochet got quite a relegation three king Corbin’s as over as the B word and for although he put three again no Vetter King of the Ring then King Jaffa Wafaa thanks yeah two waters Jack Dolan said what about rusev no what about Raven what about Raven mmm That’s So Raven Tom McMahon says first super chat thanks for being entertaining AF thank you very much cheers I hope there’s no relation to Vince better the good word for us pal yeah that’s the guy who watches the restaurant that’s how they get all our ideas Vince I need to disguise myself never see bastard will hate said Luke who’s the better mayor Glen Jacobs or Goldie Wilson well we got a reelect mayor Goldie Wilson progress is his real name progress is his middle name rather diamo ed Z Rex sorry for butchered that one can we please read out Blake hams email we keep on trying we just run out as do i actually he actually has sent an email about to hurry down but I forgot this week I’ll bill on tomorrow’s show maybe with me if we get time if we get time but he actually goes do it when I do want to read and the MUFC says happy boast yet post gender-reveal party day king chopper thanks Timothy BT says should WWE stop swearing for a cheap pop well how you know the future serious yeah otherwise you don’t know if they really don’t like each other unless I say bitch yeah cuz that’s what sash has said at the end of her promo yeah I mean I find potty-mouth quite fun yeah I didn’t think you should out just not on this channel hmm well it means we can’t make money mayor Paintsville Dan comes back in to say I can’t wait for the magazine going monthly also I kind of like raw this week what do you think was this a final goodbye for Kane a moment of passing the torch also Curt Hawkins got TV time now isn’t that great just because they were in Knox County yeah and you know came to test like we’re never to go to Vegas and you get a godfather appearance you want to make sure the mag though cuz Dan did oh yes see plug time two days away it’s going in shops get your issue from wrestle talk Big Cartel calm what’s a good magazine Skywalker D says just one question where is last Sullivan he’s injured yeah a big big injury as well out till 2020 Daniel be police knows what you feature in this month’s magazine as a writer there in the Twitter talk ah what about NXT UK Cardiff lovely stuff Jack Hightower says shout out to my twin brother Justin Hightower cool name man there’s a court very cool name just incredible Hightower Chad Rick Clark says chopper Pete you are the father I’m honest and he found that America defensively said I’m so confused how did ee w we get all the unhappy people back on TV around the same time also that rusev massage is just beautiful he needs to keep it and there’s a draft coming up they need all the star power they can get because SmackDown is moving to Fox that’s how yeah but they wants you to forget there’s a alternative out there Johnse Pietro Randi Danson’s number two fans says the real father is king chopper I don’t like where this is going coming up thing I don’t like it Colton Holman said curious if the what said Colton Holman that’s a regressive great name is a great name he said curious if the Raw and Smackdown lives current champions were to Thanos away from existence who would you give each title to to reset the main roster it’s a lot of time so we’ll just do the top ones so Kofi and Seth I put theme of this sea for the universal hasn’t yeah I wins get him away from Shane yeah and as a but in that good baby face role yeah swifty whiskey says is Michael Cole turning heel he seemed to be wavering back and forth like WWE’s teasing he’ll call for new commentary on Fox no they was they wanted more sports based presentation so I don’t think they would we didn’t actually get unto how great the fiend end sequence was but Michael Cole ruined it by yelling the theme he’s awful he’s yeah he can’t be quite bad commentators just need to shut up whenever the fiends out there but I will take today’s commentary over he’ll Michael Cole any day yeah the way kami bit Nathan the alpha wolf Vela says happy national professional professional house cleaners day thanks flame Inc said please make happy chopped a day t-shirts a thing yeah okay yeah we’re trying to get merch up and going before December so potential Rick Chandler says thanks for getting me through work keep it up you’re very welcome thank you for listening watchin and Edie says dreadful raw IMO production was horrendous Oh in terms of the map I know production-wise I thought it was totally fine yeah yeah no no worse than usual with Kevin Dunn’s camerawork is that all that was all the super Jess was it no that was just the miscellaneous ones now we get on to the ones that came in l4 I just started getting those ones talus in OS says I think Kane was targeted to get taker involved potentially yeah I think it was weird that take a didn’t plan to anything last Tuesday is he Valens has another link between Perry White and Kane saying the Brothers of Destruction to account the Wyatt family mmm yeah that was there as well but if we’re going down this route then why it may as well just take out everyone because he’s feuded with everyone in the company gives him a lot of options I guess so Dwayne Corley again says they lost the Brothers of Destruction in 2015 Survivor Series I feel like we’re clutching here possibly Bower figs UK says I bet Corbin makes gable his gesture this is great stuff like that could work with with Chad being the beaten down babyface then makes the big valiant return and that’s when you get the big you know they screw you Baron Corbin and then they have a big old payoff match that could work it’s what we were saying for Owens and Shane yeah could work really well it they’re like like Miz and Alex Riley that was a very well told version of that yeah and maybe then we can give check able Alex Riley hold music because it was really good okay so you’d get that back on again Caleb Maldonado says glad to wake up to some lovely time with the boys time with the boys Louis the silver said genuinely one of my favorite fiend moments as a horror fan the visual of break crawling closer to Seth’s face was absolutely captivating and terrifying and cool Michael Dominguez says something that it just refreshed Margaret Miller says Ollie you looked into the Flintstones are the future no I haven’t had a chance of sleeping yesterday yes this is the theory it’s like Aladdin is set in the future that’s why the genie knows pop culture references from the 90s it’s a planet the Apes kind of reveal but that’s yeah I think that’s what people are theorizing about are the Flintstones there’s actually the future is post the Jetsons post Jurassic Park yeah it’s a post-apocalyptic world and that’s why they still have the technology and stuff as opposed to the fact it was just done because that way was funny just then it’s just that Ed White said happy birthday chopper whopper ding-dong what the dude ah that’s mildly better acting partner Page said fiend is getting the stone-cold Attitude Era treatment he’s appeared multiple times throughout the show he better win that belt oh yeah Marco Dominguez again said fiend Roman at Manor at mania anybody but you Roman food fiend Roman of mania mania god yeah again I don’t even want to think about fene losing the belt right now but here’s the biggest donor company yeah the only other thing we do and I’d actually prefer this would be Fein Cena hmm and as I you know talked about like getting revenge for WrestleMania moments when seen oh really should have put over Bray Wyatt a WrestleMania that is one there we yeah I’d much rather a Fein Cena yeah Rocket Davos guy comes back against say thanks guys become a patron everybody great live stream your uh you say it was a den fan sky rocket demos going yeah I was known tennis name earlier I thought he was in today showers but he’s not unfortunate tannest arica said Bray deserves a two-year title run minimum but that would be yeah if they can make it work yeah that’d be great Adam Hunter said what if ray starts replacing those he beats with puppets he has in the funhouse it might get a bit crowded in there I like the wall of friendship the wall of friendship I think what he was sick because the puppets are sort of you know fragments of his psyche win sister Abigail rambling Rab in reference to his rambling promos and Huskers being much larger version Abreu was so I actually think it’s better to keep it just his fractured personality as opposed to people he’s beaten we’ve got Vince Weber Vince I think he’s also just part of his fractured psyche it’s just its father figure yeah which is what Vince likes to believe himself to be and you know you are not good enough to be in this company because that’s what he’s been Technica says I do not want the fiend to get the title character wise what would be his motivation he wants to make friends not fame oh that’s a good point actually what is his motivation to win the title I don’t know if it’s the tight leader first as Seth and Seth it’s got just I just happened to have the title yeah but then he gained waves will go after bro and could go after anyone got to Kane and wish Mishra said what about Alistair black beating the fiend to take him off the title takes out off him at WrestleMania yeah well I feel quite good about that one um but yet two years down the line maybe at the game yeah we need to build black up a little bit more yeah cuz I mean let’s just do anything with blackest Marcus Roman says chopper joined 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