WWE SMACKDOWN ON FOX ROCKS RATINGS, THAT’S GOTTA BE CAIN! / WZ DAILY

WWE SMACKDOWN ON FOX ROCKS RATINGS, THAT’S GOTTA BE CAIN! / WZ DAILY


[Music] hey guys it’s me Matt kun with total engagement which is a short daily wrestling podcast available on all your podcast platforms whether we’re talking about news of the day hot takes instant reaction retro clips or even crime and wrestling it’s got a little something for every wrestling fan its total engagement daily powered by wrestles oh [Music] there we go what’s up everybody its Kanekalon coming you from the NBC tower in downtown Chicago for a live post show of SmackDown in their big debut on Fox the rock and the man cooked something up we have a new WWE Champion and that’s gotta be that’s gotta be Kay Velazquez will get into all of it right now [Music] yes it you Smackdown post show we’re breaking news WWE may have taken a hit on Wednesday with the big debut of aew Fox this debut on Fox of SmackDown a multi-year deal worth over a billion dollars has scored big big this is a big big victory for WWE in all intensive purposes you can’t really spin it any other good way Fox Sports setting up this press release earlier today this show on Fox last night on network TV was the most-watched WWE TV show in two years it was an 85 percent increase in average viewers over the last five weeks it peaked at 4.2 million and settled in at about 3.9 million all right and that is just on streaming platforms mind you we also have to include in the end concea right down here in the left hand corner of this graphic I have up on the screen for you this doesn’t include dish viewers or sling TV viewers sling TV is owned by dish so this is a really really strong rating for WWE they had a lot of big things on this show they ended with a big moment and a big title change we’ll get into all that stuff but just talking business this was a legit exciting show it felt like a pay-per-view it didn’t feel like another TV show and a lot of fans reacted pretty positively to most of it and I’ll talk to you about the things that fans weren’t exactly happy about but I mean you look at that number you know three point nine nearly four million people is your viewing on Fox on streaming platforms in Spanish as well which is a really strong inclusion of where we’re gonna see this thing go internationally with Fox and non-english market so that’s a very very strong rating and peaking with 4.2 is really really good I mean you can’t you can’t deny that and this is Fox predicts the broadcast network will be primetime coveted in the 18 to 49 demo so that’s key as well now we don’t know how didn’t demos but if these are just the initial numbers mind you this is just an initial number this isn’t a complete one this is really really good let’s see what fans are thinking about smack down here smack down training was up from last night but the next Mack down will sucks watch my words well marina right now it hit big you you want you want to take him down you’re gonna have to reach for that here cuz this was something special Jason granny didn’t like he said Smackdown was rubbish it was rubbish Jason gurney ass says where was stone-cold as promised stone-cold was on the show I’ve heard a couple people said this that stone cold wasn’t on there he was on the show they had him in the graphic opening right before the show went live he kind of ran down all the stories and there’s kind of a pre tape but there’s a lot of things they’re gonna do with these type of like cameos that are pre tapes I had a couple people say there was no Stone Cold Steve Austin that fast and singing as well he was you tuned in too late for it guys he did a blue carpet pre-show which showed another sign that Fox was really behind this thing giving him even a half an hour more of a TV time and it delivered here it was something special they had a good rating they were number four and the networks but they don’t want to be number one with this thing this is designed to be subvert whatever else is going on in TV that’s what wrestling’s kind of doing now so this is a big win for them in terms of looking at WWII yes thank you for the shoutout you guys are watching this show live for the first time you get your comments on screen I read them we’re live at interactive the most interactive pro wrestling talk show online we’re gonna be doing Monday through Friday wrestle zone daily at 5 p.m. central 6 p.m. Eastern right around there and we also these available as podcasts as well so you can download that go search wrestle zone radio on iTunes all your podcasting apps but Smackdown big ratings win for them there’s no there’s no bad spin to this I know a lot of people were shocked with what a e-w did and they’re still getting a lot of great press for that well-deserved on there and for a you can past WWE minute in it’s an impressive way and their first head-to-head battle but what do you think smash the like button here if you’re watching live you don’t want to throw your comments on there what didn’t you think it’s backed up a lot of big news coming out of the show obviously the biggest was Cain Velasquez joining WWE this is the number one story the number one trend coming out of the show Smackdown itself is trending high on social media all night it was the number one trend worldwide for over an hour that is very hard to maintain and Cain Velasquez was a part of that number two or three on Twitter that I saw and he coming over from the UFC still under controversy it’s very interesting now from what we know from our sources Cain has not signed a permanent deal with WWE so the idea is that if they cut this angle we’re gonna get a deal now things like this have been done before over at UFC you had Brock Lesnar getting in the ring and confronting Daniel Cormier and we thought that was gonna be a match it never happened obviously you know tell me to be a sign Brock Lesnar excuse me stuffy nose so we’re getting Kane vs. Brock Brock is the new WWE Champion here he defeated Kofi Kingston and a match that really really upset a lot of different fans here it was it was something to end the show it was not a title match goes on about 850 I remember looking up at the clock that I’m in here in this room looking at it’s 850 I was like I got 10 minutes to do this and if they’re gonna cut a big angle at the end of the show this match is gonna be pretty short I looked up the clock and it’s a 851 when the match was already over so the match was a stunning defeat for Kofi Kingston this ends a dreamlike run for him he had the match of the year I think for WWE at WrestleMania I was there was something special here a lot of people were very very upset about that Donald Cleveland see Kofi wasn’t protected at all he was disposed of disrespectfully and forgotten treated like he’s leaving so easy raw pound uh and then he goes on to say he’s such a pro he deserved better a lot of people saying that a lot of people saying that Kofi Kingston deserves better than this and that he was he was robbed and he was job doubt he certainly didn’t get a competitive match I could say that much but I think Kofi Kingston is going to be fine I think hoping he’s gonna be fine so the initial reaction of this guy say he was disposed of this is just respectful you know the tone of it was was odd when he came out that he’s had a great run 11 years to get here there was kind of like it was dismissive of Michael Cole but I think though it was upsetting to see him lose the angle right after a sub planted all that the was to get you really upset at Brock Lesnar for taking this title off that’s beloved to figure you cared so if you’re angry about it it worked you know if you’re angry about it it worked Shawn Smith saying the dream is over boron NOS la saying that he’s aw about know he has thoughts do not expect that I don’t think he’s going yeah he did the job well he definitely didn’t he wasn’t competitive you know you can say that he got left out right away but this Cain Velasquez angle right after was a huge deal for WWE this guy’s a huge sports star Fox wants a sports centered show that’s the word we’ve gone and liquid was featured here Lesnar legit UFC guy all right Cain Velasquez legit UFC guy and a lot of story line back there for those of you not familiar Keane Velasquez beat Brock Lesnar in the UFC took the title off him and did it in in one round all right an impressive way if you’re UFC fam maybe you’re turning into WWE and if you’re a w2b fan you don’t know that that what a great story to tell now Kenny put on a great match we don’t know this guy yellow he has a very limited amount of wrestling experience and it was impressive to see him take down Brock a Brock cover up you know so a lot of people were looking at this like wow that was something else here Nashawn Joe is saying Kane vs Bain in the main event yeah I was yelling that’s got to be that’s got to be Kane Velasquez you know the old throwback to the Hell in a Cell match were Kane debuted Josh Goddard saying I love the story that was told with Brock’s reaction became yeah Brock was shocked when Brock saw him come out Brock was like oh boy I’m an old man I’m in trouble and of course Keane Velasquez led to the ring or the man that Brock decimated and attacked and brutalized his son Rey Mysterio and Ray had the arm up in a sling so I don’t know we’re gonna see ran the ring anytime soon but certainly if you have Rey Mysterio as Cain Velasquez kind of manager secondary character maybe they get a tag-team match out of this before they build up to a one-on-one match who knows it’ll be something special but no matter how you spin it yeah it’s it’s a bummer if you’re a Kofi Kingston fan but now this guy coming in is could it be set up now for a big big run to go after Brock Lesnar Brock Lesnar is a convincing monster champion he’s a monster you’re not supposed to like him you’re supposed to hate him and if you didn’t like that finish you were entertained because you cared I want to keep hammering that in if you were upset that Kofi Kingston got shocked with the defeat maybe you keep on Kofi now maybe you see it kissing Kofi mania – who knows it’s reshuffles the deck and you have to do that from time to time I thought Kobe’s titles were 12 Kobe’s title matches were waning I thought the Summer Slam match with Randy Orton was was good but it needs to be great and a lot of people i Romero Lavelle Porter over on Twitter easy guy covers all of our instant results at wrestles own calm very upset very upset that Kofi case law stat title saying that he wasn’t treated the same way that Seth Rollins was and you know but there’s a different story you’re telling with Seth Rollins by the way Seth Rollins in Hell in a Cell this Sunday tomorrow night there’s only three batches advertised for that which was which is an odd case we’ll have some extra matches uh added there nick bastian saying brock best box-office draw in the business today we’ll see about that but the ratings don’t tonight here Machado is saying I thought Cain Velasquez signing with triple-a well I agree with you that it seems like that but it seemed like he only did it for a couple of appearances Kane has been very open about saying that he is but he’s been in talks with w2b about doing this there’s been no apprehension about that now the fact that we thought it would happen like this and he still talks to them and we don’t have a confirm deal it’s still going on going but I would say right now you’re only gonna see him in WWE moving forward that’s kind of the way it looks right now so a lot of people having their take their take about it here I’m a fan of what’s going on it with Smackdown I was upset instantly and then happy very instantly Raquel Gutierrez saying the match was too short it’s a it’s a time factor you gotta I’m look and you look at the clock you got 10 minutes you gotta cut an angle and you got to do a match what are you gonna cut first you’re gonna cut the match all right you had to leave fans watching that show having a reason to watch the show the next week you cannot think short-term give me what I want out I want this I need this now you gotta be mature about it and think long term story cuz what’s a better payoff a long-term story all right you got great wrestling on the show are you telling me you didn’t get an action-packed show prior this cuz you did also on the show I think the match of the night much better than if you just want to talk about matches Kevin Owens crushing Shane McMahon crushing him I thought there’s a very clever match that led into a pay-per-view break or excuse me a commercial break where they did Shane McMahon leaping off the top rope putting Kevin Owens through a table and then coming right out of the commercial break with Kevin Owens back oh wow he got the advantage he came up from this brutal all-out war to see who’s gonna get fired from the show Kevin Owens putting shame through the ladder immunity when they came back from the commercial break I thought that was very very clever I also enjoyed the finish it was a fun way where he put him he slammed him on another ladder powerbomb him off a ladder onto a ladder very very violent stuff and deliver like a big pay-per-view spectacle of violence and then Kevin Owens said you’re fired stunner a lot of fans thought oh the local is gonna come on dudas if you still go do that don’t get angry because your fantasy booking isn’t fulfilled they didn’t advertise Stone Cold’s gonna be involved to the match so don’t get angry about something I got into argument with somebody left that on Twitter oh but fantasy bookie wasn’t fulfilled so it was bad shot Lonnie saying Smackdown was great great storytelling really enjoyed it here we go Joseph a minute senior saying Goldberg was probably like hey only I’m supposed to have quick dominating matches yeah I’ve heard about that before as well and what’s the tale what’s Roberts take on this I don’t know Robert Robert will join me next week on the show to where we’ll have our frequent viewers don’t worry he’s coming back no worries don’t be freaky about it it’ll be okay Bailey Charlotte match announced for how in a Cell yes that has been confirmed expected they had a tag-team match last night with Charlotte and Becky taking on Bailey and Sasha Charlotte getting the win via submission on this back down Women’s Champion I thought that was a pretty good match not nearly as good as the one they had at Madison Square Garden a few weeks ago but the fact that it was the historic first match of smackdown on Fox mean something WM he still cares about the women still puts him up prominently I thought it was a good match other highlights on this show you got to admit the rock was a big way to open to the rock opening segment with Becky Lynch was something special he was advertised he was promoted his social media platform is huge and he delivered something here this segment were I know a lot of people like it didn’t set up a match it didn’t set up a match but you got to think you know they really cook something up here rock in the man cooking something up train lines back and forth that crowd was red-hot in terms of just you know doing something here that makes it a match a match in a segment if you will where they beat him down it was strong he Corman’s the perfect guy to send out there the perfect geek and it was another squash him to squash the rocks and squash the rock rock shouldn’t do that rock shouldn’t put somebody else over all the way rock will put somebody over if they’re gonna build a match you know excuse me my nose is very stuffy but rock should put somebody over its are gonna put a match if they aren’t gonna do a match and they’re gonna do this and rocks gonna you know celebrate the history is smashed out it’s a rabble-rousing singular segment this is the best way to do it I thought it was strong I loved it I enjoyed it I knew exactly what it was from the moment it started Robert says I’m literally here well Robert do you want to be on the show do you want to jump in you know send me the link here pal if you here we go Robert is doing the running he’s joining the show here in a minute all right what do you think of Smackdown last night Robert well Robert will tell you here in just a moment we’ll have him do the running from Robert to feel us a lot of people say yeah Herman took our signe sdd line Robert to felis showing up at some point here where are you Robert where are you skipping that camera down pal let me get you up here there you go pull it over pull it over pan there you go now I got you the full shot you got you the new set up here a new house new hair you look like rusev if you like Roberts new haircut smash that like button anyway because Russell’s been working like a damn machine for the last five days yeah you know credit to the whole team I mean this was a hell of a week and I missed most of it but I didn’t see Smackdown Kevin and I was not a fan and I whatever Robert it was a great show I enjoyed it stop positive that looks gorgeous I think the set was a really good looking thing I think rock is fantastic when isn’t he I think Baron Corbin is gonna be referred to as STV for the rest of his life which is interesting to say the least I have tremendous issues with the brock lesnar Kofi Kingston thing and not because Brock won the whole thing became very dismissive of Kofi and by virtue of that I think very dismissive of modern WWE they said look over here now we had this big thing and that’s cool you’re always telling bigger stories and WWE and I get it but it just seemed like too much of a gloss over this great story that really carried the SmackDown brand for the majority of the year this is a brand new show this is a reboot so changing the champion makes complete sense that’s another thing that I just don’t get people are upset you’re supposed to be so that you can get reinvested in your character then they have a new heel villainous champion that someone can chase up the mountain because we’re going up a new mountain because we’re on a new network why you people put their feelings in front of facts alright the facts are all there the storyline makes complete sense guess what you can you get to go behind Kofi on a new journey and a new ride you’re gonna you’re gonna see him in his pals come back are you telling me they’re just gonna ice this guy next week no it’s not gonna happen it’s not gonna happen get your head out of your ass because people know better you put your feelings I loved Kofi they bury Kofi they bury my favorite guys that I did that everyone just gets up their own head because they’re not booking what they think in their head you know I say this all the time and this is another example of this there isn’t a more overheal guy that you can make the champion in WWE right now the brock lesnar was I mad you’re damn right I was I’m supposed to be I was watching the show as a fan and then when I step back and I put my pundit hat out of like wow look at a bunch of new matches you can do now you’ve came Velasquez this sports star coming in you’re gonna you’re gonna create a bunch of new possibilities here new show new fans new things alright but let people excel it’s the same Oh starve abroad but you can’t deny his power you cannot deny the draw of what he is if they know no let me split me spit it because we’re just gonna be hypothetical now cuz everyone can just be hypothetical and then sub plants that on top of what the actual facts are right cuz that’s what we’re doing okay what if the rock became the champion last night then no one would care you know cuz it’s one of their favorites and you don’t like Brock you’re not supposed to you’re supposed to hate him right so he gets the title so it sucks it’s bad booking it’s this it doesn’t make sense no stop talking like you know the science of the situation this isn’t a perfect science this is storytelling week the week you need to do it this is a new season of the show that’s it it’s not that it’s not that complicated past that I agree with everything you just said I think you might’ve missed what I was saying I didn’t say Brock winning was dad for business I think what they did was fine I just think doing it in the fashion that they did was dismissive to what kofi a building yes you can make the argument and I think all week long and honestly WWE was big we focused on new fan we’re assuming that you either never watched this oh yeah starting to watch it for the first time but for a long-term fan it just seems like okay Gopi he had the run the run ends and now he’s gonna probably go back as they shuffle the deck you know wherever you may fall I actually agree we saw a comment earlier that said you might go to raw maybe maybe Kofi is raw bad raw has certainly changing things with Bobby Lashley and that was the one thing this week that I actually saw live which was but yeah I think Brock Lesnar winning is fine I think Kevin Owens winning and ending that Shane McMahon story that’s been kind of swept under the rug I think that’s a huge moment yeah and everyone slept on it no one talked to Noah they did this week over dude Kofi bred to do the guy won the title at WrestleMania in the best match of the year no no he was the focus of the TV show for the past year but they did him wrong he got to be he had to be in the main event on their network TV debut of SmackDown and he got the show there but they buried him do you get buried if you’re in the main event normally you didn’t answer my question are you buried if you’re in the main event no I’m not done are you dismissed if you’re in the main event little bit the thing is it’s a little bit it’s not a whole lot no you didn’t get you know Nexus at all so everyone’s like talking like they know what’s gonna happen next week you don’t you don’t know what’s gonna happen that suite but Robert isn’t that the point you want to know what’s gonna happen they got you on the string but they didn’t get me they can’t get me I’ve been watching I know what they’re gonna do don’t get me you can’t catch me I know what you’re doing come on seriously back off get off your frickin high horse somebody so many people think they knows I’ve been watching by waiting for me I’ve been watching my whole life I’d like to be surprised I’m surprised you got one he beat him in eight seconds all right they want a Sports focus show you can lose a fight in 30 seconds all right and this is supposed to be a faux fight sport and then the cane came out there and the big showing us of pro wrestling and took him down and then Brock made him look cooler than he’s scared now we have a new situation was very very gallant of Kay Velasquez to come to the aid of naturally Bray that back oh stop it you’re you know you’re just reaching now you’re just trying to make me mad just saying yeah pretty ridiculous here lots of hype though for Smackdown and obviously I mention the ratings success people saying I’m ranting and I’m overreacting what other people saying here Chad Miller saying great show but you could have let Kofi have some offense Kofi’s my W to be champ see well here’s the thing then if this if this brings Kofi mania if it Peaks all that support for Kofi again that oh they’re suppressing Kofi yeah pinned yup beat you know it was clean yeah but if you do that with Kofi isn’t that great is that good momentum well hypothetically it’s in six months Kofi Kingston is nowhere near the top of the card do you still feel as strongly as you do now I feel it’s a natural thing I I don’t think people give W me the breaks and that way the depth they have I saw some eunsu’s back to the mid card the mid card right now is Roman reigns and Daniel Bryan Owens and Randy Orton is that a bad big card to be hit are you in bad company then if you’re on smack top no I don’t think you oh no it’s not it’s not now now as you know so the fact that people want to do that come next Friday they might not even my views me a veteran wrong that’s that’s why you have to be change champions that’s why you have to do things like this you know that yeah we could even get into Hell in a Cell tomorrow what what may happen there but I just think people overreacted like but you’re supposed to overreact they got the people care so it worked I honestly I missed it because I clicked away from ten seconds I mean I think part of that is it’s a clever thing it’s a clever clever thing to do that on television to have like a stunning finger Shawn Letty supporting what I’m saying here Russell Byron saying rock became a champion last night no I was being sheezus facetious your fishiness to felis over here Robert vs. Robert just I thought Smackdown came across very well you know and I thought everything was good I don’t Ross Berman great Russell’s own contributor put this out on Twitter he said Kane and Brock is gonna make this feel like WWE is trying to be UFC I’m not sure if that was the move and I kind of feel that a little bit as well like Kane and Brock is a great story they have great history together because Kane knocked out Brock so quickly but I did the research that’s like was nine years ago so even then it’s not like really fresh history like if you were to bring out Holly Holm against Ronda Rousey that might be a little bit of a oh here’s the woman that just got finished knocking around not that long ago but this was a while ago and today to his credit Cain Velasquez is a hot commodity in for us I had to send you her Quran as a few months back at a triple mania but I don’t know if this is the move like I think this will be a big match for whatever they do it and I think Cain Velasquez will be a huge hit but I don’t know if in five years we’re talking about that monumental moment became Velasquez came out TV yeah huge moment huge pop – do you see that crowd lose their mind you know yeah I think it’s because most people but that was Dominic for five seconds so that they’re relaxed you know for ones that second when he came out and you saw rate you heard raised music first and how about that new set with that new set looking great I love that news that’s amazing yeah pyro and everything like that and so when he came out I was like I didn’t I just thought right first with his arm in a sling I was like oh what’s ray gonna do here but then when you saw King come out they took a long pause and they had that walk out here the knee brace on see wasn’t walking great but that takedown and the punches and everything and look at the chit it was cool it was like on oh right away they had some real magic between these two and the tease of Brock getting back in the ring we’re gonna do this again you know there’s a lot of mixed reports about this Alex McCarthy of talk sport you know very legitimate source over the UK is reporting there’s a possibility that this this match between Brock and Kane will not go down at WrestleMania or some huge premiere quarterly uh BW event like you would think maybe a Survivor Series in Chicago no it’s expect to go down a crown jewel just a few weeks possibly in Saudi Arabia that report well I do know McCarthy and McCarthy integrators I think that comes directly from Dave Meltzer and I I made the joke in a group chat Oh guys I guess thought he’s paying the real money cuz they’re about to get can versus Brock and it looks like they like it can versus Brock and you know that’s a hell of a card and the thinking of the sunny cards even though we all have our weird vibes about them they always bring you a hell of a car they always try to put on a big attraction they do put on a big attraction because you know the Saudi Arabian crowd wants those big event vibes that they weren’t able to get in years prior and I think this might be as big as they come what if Kim Velasquez wins the W title on Halloween in Saudi Arabia yeah anything is possible I hope that your twin legs even start us anything it is anything is possible yeah so a lot of people are freaking out here in the chat thank you guys so much for watching if you with us for the first time and let me know if you’re with us for the first time get your comments screen with us and pass it on pass it on and share the link and do all that good stuff a lot of good things going on in the world arrested what a crazy week we had Raw on Monday huge show hall Cogan Ric Flair big angle there we had Wednesday night that shocking upset of aew getting the ratings the next day NXT having a great show ATW having a great show Smackdown having a great show unless a wrestling is really fun right now it’s it’s exhausting to follow all of it but it’s really really fun I have not seen that anyway I have not seen NXT but I have seen her on Smackdown Raw was interesting yes I think and Smackdown I thought it was great I I know what happened on dynamite I think Jake Hager we broke that story here on the rest of the daily I mean he was yeah he was likely signed at the time of the interview no but he didn’t flat-out say it he got very close to set I mean aw who came to play you know and I think they’re going to continue to be a major player and how about maybe the most positive shock of the week Finn Balor’s that iced tea yeah Finn Balor’s moved over next eat Tommaso Champa is there as well a lot of big moves here in WWE right now and you know everyone W got’em aw got him but then you see this Smackdown rating come in and I’m like guys like like it levels it more than levels out I I mean you want to say who won the week promotion promotion W he got it I mean he W put their mark out there and I think you’re gonna see going forward they’re gonna I think they’re gonna maintain a rating lead now for a couple weeks at least a couple weeks this idea that the machine has to die is something that I just don’t agree with I think if WWE thrives NXT thrives if you know if all that thrives aid of either EPS rig Abarth drives you know it’ll take some time but I promise Ring of Honor can thrive in that wrestling is going to be on axes TV they’re gonna thrive I mean a lot let’s pull the curtain back a little bit here Kevin in order to cover all of this I talked about cord cutting I was unable to do this because wrestling is so massive it’s so extensive right now that you need all these channels you can’t cord cut because wrestling has never been more accessible and I think it’s a beautiful time to be a wrestling fan yeah people asking where can you watch aw dynamite legally of course yeah there’s other ways if you’re just a you don’t have cable and you want to watch it there’s a watch the yeah there is I mean there’s a bunch of coordinating options there sling there’s PR live there Spike TV if you use a you get around to it where you can put an international thing on your computer you can get it through fight TV you can get it through all these things and they’re gonna have a W dark on YouTube TBS I was gonna get a show so you get extra matches every week on TV on that they’ll tape a television but the only be on the Internet is a wrestling show again it would be it would be a UW and I mean em if you a power we haven’t even gotten to talk to you about that what a wild ride that is if you look the spoiler just some crazy stuff happened the new 8 day things what what can’t you say about wrestling right now its massive des has worth with an interesting question here could the fact that weg has more than one product I think you meet more than one show makes something that makes it harder to compete with them from a rating standpoint yeah yeah I mean if you want to be subjective about it any W one ones day but it’s not like any see was like blown out of the water and all of their audience was gone it’s just there was a clear-cut winner this is the first time anyone’s done that in a long long time and AW had put on a strong show they didn’t throw everything in the kitchen sink but at least he did they had three title matches on telly and you felt that you were getting a pay-per-view here I mean and they will aid of you through as much as they could at you without me I mean they have to save something sir pay-per-view they’re building up to it you know thank you and Rijo is the first women’s champion they’re gonna get me deep if you’re a fan you w we have a bunch of media scrum interviews been watched by thousands of people if you’re watching us on Facebook go to our Facebook videos Tony Todd spoke for 30 minutes to the media after this show on TV we also have nyla Rose a very very funny interview with MGF who was not happy about what happened on dynamite as well and on top of that we’re following the situation out of the New York Comic Con where Jericho and Cody Rhodes got into it at the aw panel then each other that was just yesterday no crazy day aw stayed in the news on Friday even though WB took Friday if you want to go day to day in terms of who got the most attention and WB took Friday and they sold-out Staples Center they had 4 million people watched their be in the most viewed television wrestling show of the week by a significant margin you know and raw have a rating peak to you know rod in 3.1 this week so overall great week for wrestling the winners are you and me and I’m getting a little length all right with me to be statement after we have to their a publicly traded company they have to do better BS you don’t have to address it publicly bs we are getting into it today to feel us alright so here’s the thing BS w we put out that statement on Thursday congratulating aw of the debut and that you know you guys going head to head did really well and this is the a big lie that everyone felt was like a backhanded thing like hey we’re coming at you was this is not a so one night sprint this is America and is a hundred percent true there’s nothing wrong with that I thought it was classy but it was still like bring it on bring it up mother effer like bring it on and guess what what’s the difference between what they’re saying and what a w’s been doing building their entire brand on we’re not WWE were not WWE were this we’re different we’re new we’re fresh were they were the hip new thing we’re not like the only word and an eighty dummies marking that you don’t hear that sounds the loudness is what we’re not WWE we’re Pro Wrestling their sports entertainment blatant guts will bloody guts and all that stuff you know and it was a legitimate competition once again address them and address them in a business call it was open it was out there and prior to that I was like I was gonna see and kudos to them to you they put on a great show it felt different it looked different I thought they had really great premiere characters they built the of this looks like a faction around Chris Jericho their champion they have Jake Hager which was impressive and they had impressive matches the whole night but even in defeat the young bucks he carry a bag look great you got a great grudge with Omega and Moxley smash you throw their table a lot of great things going on with them but I didn’t think the statement from WB was that obviously I was a girl they took me they were humbled and they did it because they were embarrassed and maybe they were embarrassed it’s pretty ratings or after the ratings what was this before or after the ratings you know it’s unclear it’s unclear what that statement came out in terms of the ratings I know I would assume they got to see the rings before they came out what time you look at the coup that a job you got on this deadline variety every big media outlet that’s not a wrestling one covered this story ESPN talked about it you’re like a lot of mainstream press for look at the impressive debut of aew yes and if we’re obviously not affiliated with them with red sores for us and torch if you want to hear more about aw I really advise everybody listen to the two and a half hour interview Tony Kahn did with Wade Keller where you learn a lot of insight as to what their game plan is and why they’re not WWE and how they’re gonna be different from WWE no invisible camera which i think is a very important thing in the wrestling show you now you see the heels plotting in backstage and it’s like well we see you and if anybody has a monitor they can see you I was surprised but you know I really am looking forward to sitting down at some point tonight and watching dynamite and seeing what the future of wrestling has stopped yeah it’s just in terms of you bring that up in terms of the weight WB’s being shot and stuff like that the Fox show was almost all ring centric there’s very little stuff backstage and then when I saw backstage was legit it was Kayla Braxton like all right ayran ayran andrews from Fox Sports was a busy girl answered the show I thought that was a good call as well you think we’ll see more than yes you’ll see more of the fox sports personalities integrated I would be surprised if you have Terry Bradshaw on a like a panel at some point you really see a lot more of that and they made they made me feel like it’s an integrated product like no different than the NFL no different than any of these other shows they had you know that for that blue carpet rollout they had that all the Fox broadcast personalities there they’ve won one of the masts and your characters come out although which was wild I have been on social media if you’re following it I was find marshmallow on the belt I would like to see some Family Guy cutaways in the middle of Sirach they are because I think our truth and talent like that get away with it you know it’s a very fun partnership and it’s a very exciting time to be a fan and we’re not done yet Kevin we’ve got Hell in a Cell in less than 24 hours let’s quickly address how in a Cell three matches advertised for this show what are you for now they do Charlotte they confirm them so what’s the selling point for you they’re as cheeky as it sounds it’s in the name I think the selling point here is just hey guys we’re getting out of cell matches and you know that the fiend is a big character and the fiend is gonna be a huge Tucson point I think anything where he doesn’t walk away with the title is a mistake because they’ve built up this almost infallible character right now and even a no-contest would be kind of shitty so I just don’t see Seth losing the title I just I I know I’ve been saying it for weeks I don’t know why the theme a character who is elusive you don’t see him in the ring every week it would be bad if you saw him in the ring every week and he’s your champion I’m sorry so then you get into the same problem you’re gonna have with Brock Lesnar which is gonna be an issue but I’m think you’re gonna see bracha a TV every week now or at least at least see my TV on TV more I do too and I think the being through the funhouse stuff even though we’ll get old quick can be on TV every week without being in the ring everything well what do you think here I mean do you do you you arguing upset fans if you do an odd finish here yeah yeah I think wrestling dance and again not to draw back on a technique on interview but he talks about non finishes upset fans and I think in a case like this especially into the last Helena Sarah had a massive non finish I think you need to pull the trigger here if you put the feed in this position you should have put it in this position saying all right we’re gonna go and I think the key element here is Becky Lynch not so much Seth Rollins but that is Seth Rollins fiancee and I think Fox wants Becky and the Glocks gets Becky and I think if Fox gets Becky they’re getting Seth oh that’s interesting but doesn’t you have a lot of the same picker he says you have Seth he’s gonna go after Brock for the tunnel you know but if it ain’t broke don’t fix it and that pairing has proven well I don’t know I’ve said it enough so it’s a non finish it upset fans but can they have just a spectacle of a match you can’t just have brain wired in a Cell and not do something fantastical yeah every time they’ve had him in there they’ve done of his match with Roman reigns in the cell was a great match even though we’re over Roman reigns wanted they had they had that match of the night that pay-per-view they did spectacular with Wyatt in the ring yeah maybe the hologram with Dean Ambrose they’re gonna do something yeah they’re gonna do something wild and I think in that even with an odd finish if they have some spectacle they have some Gaga whatever it may be you know and I’m not saying it’s gonna happen I’m just saying you have the feet he’s a character who’s built for something insane right he has puppets with him I think you’re gonna see something like that I don’t know what it is but I just feel it I think you’re gonna see remember the Holograms but like the flashing images and Wrestlemania match with Randy Orton I think yourself which by bad yeah and maybe a little bit more playfulness with the cage you know you can have the cage turn into a massive funhouse but I can only do that middle the match lights go out and no then you’d like to come on and like the puppets are in the rest how do you do the puppets of the ring if it do they come out of the apron way ahead of them like in the corner yeah cut little slits into the corner and you just stick them up there and I think you can have fun with it you get you can have characters you know I mean and that’s the thing is the scene is a massive character for whatever ungodly reason it seems to want to be very character driven on Monday nitro right now I don’t know what that thing was with Lashley eventually we’re gonna have to talk about that but that was bizarre and mas I think that’s where we’re going right now guys Roy is not the 8th show it’s what’s after watching this week I think I can safely say well it’s not the top brand the top brand of Smackdown and Raw is gonna be a little experimental right James pulled from I haven’t heard that in two weeks yeah yeah you missed it I says big cap Robert what do you think if Bray loses we’d tomorrow night at Hell in a Cell well then I will take the rule of the angry smirk on the internet and say your meta go just come out and drop your pants at the crowd right on his chest because there’s no reason that that needs to happen in any way where life does not need to lose clean way to paint an image there Roberts yeah I mean really let’s let’s get in there I don’t want to get into what you just like it’s it’s not a good move it is a no good very bad very awful move everybody yeah so that’s what I think I think it’ll be a whole load of fecal matter if well I mean in terms of just a crazy week you gotta admit there’s there’s bigger masters to serve this week for w to be a new new raw reboot new smackdown reboot WWE NXT up up against a II W and then this pay-per-view is cut it there so it’s odd that you have all those things going on and you only have like a handful of matches announced for it we are gonna get Becky vs Sasha inside the Hell in a Cell do you think they have a better Cell match than the brand Rollins absolutely I think if this is done right this is gonna be match the year Oh what makes you think that these two girls are legitimately the best in the business in my opinion and I think nobody can touch them when they’re motivated and they’re very motivated right now I think you’re right and I think there’ll be some venom I think Sasha this will be her they had the match at SummerSlam but it was a good match but people didn’t like the non finish right and finish leads to a big sell match like this so that’s logical but I would say for this I gotta think that you’re gonna have meki win and it’s gonna upset that huge very surly audience set that sasha has online sasha stands let’s get into this they are a very wild bunch but you know what I think she’s winning because I think like I said the feet the Fox wants Becky Lynch and I think they had in Becky Lynch definitely what other matches on my theorem because we only have the three they’re about our tech team at Roman reigns and Daniel Bryan against the guy who’s who tried to kill him and I you know what a way to get two at a garage what a way to say my friend is gonna stand in the corner and your friend is gonna stand in the corner because I tried to hit you with a car like this is where wrestling gets hokey in a fun way because my god Eric Rowan is a massive man and could probably cut over in all of this he’s gotten over as a monster in all of us it’s crazy and I think I never would have expected that Harper would be the guy who’s just there because he can go almost better than anybody but he is over I am gonna go with my instinct right now and say Daniel Bryan’s not a babyface it turns on Roman and he was actually the guy but I don’t I haven’t felt the complete turns back to supporting the fans that Daniel Bryan could do here and you know curious statements from him this week saying that he thinks retirement will happen for him sooner than later but definitely I would think it’d be interesting if if Daniel Bryan continues to be a babyface but I do think for you there is a little bit of a predictability here if Daniel Bryan leads the blood brothers and kind of has a faction with them yeah I don’t know what you think bro you know I gotta tell ya I got I’m sorry I was reading the comments here and said this thing that he likes a show but the Vince Russo’s podcast sucks and bro I don’t even know where you’re coming from with this nonsense this Fugazi nonsense that this podcast for these two marks talking to microphones is better than my podcast bro let me tell you I I created the Attitude Era bro you don’t even understand this thing that Fox things they want I created it thought suddenly wants my creation they just couldn’t bring enough to be a they just bro you don’t understand wrong these characters I created them the feed me I I thought of the theme ten years ago for Kane because yeah I can ever hear the full story from these marks but I thought about ten years ago and I’m telling you my podcast is the best thing going bro Vince while we have you here are you involved in this rusev cock holding bobby lashley lotta love triangle all right her first low bro would you would you what you gotta understand is that Lana smoking hot smokin yeah that’s it’s a very very key point that she’s hot right she’s a hot attractive okay you know what I’m saying you know we should put this freakin hot blonde with the never made eye and I look to my left and I said my god I can’t get into here but lastly is a freaking animal and I said my god Lana lashley lash Lana it’s like a thing and it’s gonna be a thing it would be the greatest thing that you’ve ever seen when a television because bro I got thing called it works you the guy the size of friggin Lashley yeah you see a smoking-hot blonde like Lana that you’re not gonna say it’s not rusev rusev day doesn’t even exist it’s Lashley day all day and night because Lashley is a friggin machine okay understood he’s a frickin machine can I speak to Robert again glasses on it’s like it’s like it’s like it’s like Clark Kent but in Reverse well I was it wasn’t a plan of you we’re gonna plan to have you back on the show get those glasses right it wasn’t a plan to get have you back on the show this week but it’s great to have you back I know a big moving week we got you settled back in here what are you busy with this week moving ahead big media world I I work for like 20 websites I think yeah we do insightful this weekend for hisself you do it you wrestling news from Monday through Thursday and then I’ll be right here in the zone covering an XT and doing the war of the Wednesdays podcasters so call it that Kevin yes we actually have a new name for it it is called our post show on Wednesdays following aew following WWE NXT will now be called Wednesday night Wars oh the war zone because we’re wrestles own yes suggested by a listener Anna Williams I see and this is after wrestle zone is war directors like an hour later so we can say whatever we want great okay so I’ll be in the war zone apparently because a 97 summer I’ll be in the war zone with you are at the covering the NXT side of the war I assume you’ll be watching aew and then how about we switch week week we do but boss then bill says I’m cover gonna cover any i crei w so we do know that’s what we’re doing now and you know what I still think NXT is the best cohesive show on television okay we’ll see how it goes week week yeah we’ll see what happens it’ll be interesting as this war goes on hello to sell is a slightly more interesting show than it was a week ago just based on the WWE television but it’s interesting the fact that they don’t have a bunch of uh you know angles to pay off on it but I’m interested in checking out the show Sunday the money I don’t see myself watching a live outside of the main event I have a ton of different things you had a comedy gig and I understand you the gruesome image of Randy Orton taking a screwed that’s a time a watch tomorrow afternoon I catch I thought that Jeff Hardy and Randy Orton really just beat the snot out of each other Randy Orton had the wrench of the ear and also said situation with Jeff Hardy in a recent arrest we root for Jeff and his family and everyone else involved but it is an unfortunate situation we are following it at Russell’s Oh calm the best of wish is the best of health to Jeff at and everybody there the Hardy clan rough time rough time to see the week we will be back on Monday at 5 p.m. central standard time 6 p.m. Eastern with wrestle zone daily we will have the raw post show then we’ll do that Wednesday a war zone show after 8 w and XT and then Monday through Thursday though we’ll still have that so one of tons of audio for you if you’re with us on the podcast side rate review and subscribe rate review and subscribe let me see it again let’s get the show over to 5 stars can you 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